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Subject: RE: [Leica] RE: Apology
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:22:20 -0400

True enough...OR, if he'd said that he finds it impossible to forgive
the JAPANESE World War II leadership for what was done to U.S. POWs and
pilots, we'd still be talking about obsolete 135 mm lenses. Of course
then Don would have some real 'splainin' to do about how he can feel
that way and yet buy and own German cameras...

(I didn't say that!:-) )

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Ernest
Nitka
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:14 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: Apology


And adding to this BD is the fact that there are a lot of nice but 
STUPID people around.  How Don can't separate out the atrocities of 50 
years ago with the inappropriate use of the word "Jap" in an internet 
forum is beyond me.  If he had said that he doesn't think the word 
'Jap' is offensive then we'd at least be on a higher level of debate.

Ernie
On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 01:44 PM, bdcolen wrote:

> The fact that someone is a sweet, delightful guy, Steve, with whom one

> enjoys spending time, does not mean that one is not a racist.  Having 
> a long memory is one thing; having a racist outlook is another.
>
> Just MHO....
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Steve 
> LeHuray
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:23 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: Apology
>
>
>> Ah, the LUGzoo.
>>
>> One person using the freedom of speech to voice an opinion.
>>
>> The hall monitors using the freedom of speech to attack that person.
>>
>> All under the Leica Users Group facade.
>>
>> Where else can we find such fine dialog?
>>
>> ...Nowhere else!
>>
>> JB
>>
>
> ....yes, "nowhere else."  I agree with this comment which is actually 
> a comment on life in the US than life on the LUG. Or life on the LUG 
> is a microcosm of the US.
>
> As far as Don's comments, I defend his right to say these things. And 
> I have spent personal time with Don (Leica Cape Cod workshop for 3 
> days) and Don is no racist. He is one of the nicest, gentlest, 
> thoughtful guys I know. Let's face it the World is a very nasty place,

> and, I find nothing wrong with having a long memory about things that 
> been done to hurt you, or your family, or country. Just MHO.
>
> sl
>
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