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Subject: RE: [Leica] Apology
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:55:09 -0400

Racist labels, perhaps? ;-)

And perhaps some black Americans have taken to using the term in the
hopes of defusing it. Everyone of the terms you use is considered deeply
offensive by most of those to whom it refers.


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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Joseph
Codispoti
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:42 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Apology



From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@mac.com>

>>>>>
Just goes to show how complex this business is - 'cause I thought Brit
was a completely acceptable term. Certainly in the Navy we used it when
operating against our counter-parts and there was no perception of it
being anything other  than a quick short-hand. "Limey" however was
avoided. <<<<<< Americans have an affinity for assigning "endearing"
names to foreign nationals"

"Wop, Dago, Ginni, Limey, Gook, Frog, Nigger, Chink, Spic, Pollack,
Jap", and so forth.

While there is no doubt that all of these (and others I may have missed)
are used in a derogatory sense, some are not really offensive.

Pollack, for instance, is the correct designation for a Pole. In fact,
were I one, I would rather be called a Pollack than a Pole. A Polish
national would refer to himself as Polakiem.

Black people (African Americans, now) refer to themselves as niggers in
the most endearing way when conversing among themselves. Obviously no
one else uses the term without prejudice.

Of course, when these names are used to insult, demean, or harass, then,
obviously it is unacceptable.

Joseph Codispoti

P.S. Can anyone tell me what such designations are called? They are not
names. What are they?





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