Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/04

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Staying w/ film for a while - history channel
From: "Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:50:20 -0500
References: <r01050300-0921-68B67880C69311D78147148C833E87A1@[66.239.168.206]>

So, that would probably take autochromes out of the historical lineup of
photo processes?

http://www.bway.net/~jscruggs/auto.html

I assure you, as one who handles old photos every day that the survival rate
of silver prints can be very poor indeed.

A better way to preserve an image might be to print it on high quality paper
with stable inks.  Lithography from the 20's is holding together better than
silver in our collection.

Let's see, ink on high quality paper?  Could that be Inkjet's future?

Sonny Carter
Imaging Specialist
Cammie G. Henry Research Center

Preserving beautiful images in effective ways since 1995
;>D








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From: "George Lottermoser" <imagist@concentric.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Staying w/ film for a while - handled a D100 (and a
10D, and...)


> Not the definition of photography - however the definitions: Photographic
print, photographic negative, photographic slide, photographic transparency,
photographic positive - as meaning light sensitive emulsions on substrates
which have been exposed to light and therefore hold an image - seems very
different in fact, substance and aesthetics than - image data residing as
code, in various magnetic, cd or other memory systems which require powered
hardware and software to read, print and display as an ³image.²
>
> This is very up for me as Iıve just mounted and installed a dozen prints
in an exhibition which I call EDGE: 3 photographic prints from large format
negatives (2 - 12x20 contact prints, 1 enlargement from 4x5), 1 photographic
enlargement from xPan neg, 4 inkjet prints from digital captures, 4 inkjet
prints from scans of 35mm film.
>
> To my eye, mind and heart - in fact, substance and aesthetics: I feel a
clear movement from photographic printing (print making) into the world of
digital print making. Both methods create an object which relate to
photography - most folks wonıt even know what theyıre looking at - however -
as I worked on and finished the prints - I experienced such huge differences
in fact, substance and aesthetics - that I simply must clarify my use of the
language - for me:
>     a photographic image = recorded on light sensitive film or other
substrate
>     a digital image capture = recorded on ccd, scanning back, et al
>     a photographic print = printed on light sensitive emulsion coated
substrate
>     an inkjet print = an inkjet print
>
> With those definitions, I can discuss the prints and their properties:
aesthetically, historically, technically, etc..
>
>
> bdcolen@earthlink.net (bdcolen)8/4/03
>
> >definition of photography
>
> Fond regards,
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