Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/09

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Subject: Re: [Leica] An Orthopoedic Surgeon Is Strong as an Ox and Twice as Smart
From: "Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 22:05:48 -0700
References: <000001c35ee8$c2702960$121afea9@Hausner>

Gee, Buzz,
I'm not sure what your motive here is.  Are you trying to pound the CL's
reputation into the ground?  OK, so you don't like the CL.

I don't like canned aparagus.   There.  I said it.  Some others might like
it.

After you say you don't like something, it is time to stop. You are not
going to change the opinions of those who do like CL's and canned asparagus.

You are not going to stop the guy from tryting that cute little well-made
Leica that I am sorry I don't own anymore.

Give it up.

SonC



- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buzz Hausner" <buzz.hausner@verizon.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 7:40 PM
Subject: [Leica] An Orthopoedic Surgeon Is Strong as an Ox and Twice as
Smart


> Well, Brrrrr, if you didn't get it the first time that B.D, made the
> point, let me say it again.  The camera body has almost nothing to do
> with the image quality of the picture, except to assist in focus which,
> I hasten to add, is one of the CL's weakest points...focus, that is.
> It's the lens that permits one to make a high quality image by and
> large.
>
> If you check the archives, Brrrrr, you will note that I have heaped high
> praise on the 40mm Summicron on numerous occasions.  Attached to any
> body, that lens could produce world class images.  Nonetheless, for
> reasons that I have stated many times before and that you have noted
> below, my opinion is that the CL was a real bow wow, especially when
> compared to any other platform for holding a Leica lens.
>
> Buzz Hausner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of
> Afterswift@aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:00 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Second Thoughts on a Leica Second Body
>
>
> In a message dated 8/9/03 4:24:10 PM, jerryleh@pacbell.net writes:
>
> <<  I would hate to be constrained
> to the arbitrary limits of an essentially useless camera. >>
>
> Jerry,
>
> The point is that the CL isn't a useless camera. It is a very fine piece
> of
> equipment. But it requires that the photographer slightly change his or
> her way
> of working with it. For example, we can't use a lens that extends too
> far
> toward the meter element, so we can't use collapsable Leitz lenses. The
> CL
> viewfinder is confined to show 40, 50 and 90mm lenses only. I've never
> used a 50mm
> lens with it. The meter indicator needle sometimes only vaguely centers
> on the
> shutter speed. For most Ms you can buy an eyepiece diopter lens. Only
> used
> viewfinder diopters are available for the CL. The rubber lenshades for
> the 40 and
> 90 mm lenses deteriorate after about 20 years and there's no replacement
>
> available. The match needle TTL meter is delicate, so you must handle
> the camera
> with care. Loading film finds you balancing two objects tied together on
> a
> strap.
>
> But for that you have a brilliant viewfinder, a splendid focal plane
> shutter,
> a film plane mechanism that holds film absolutely flat. It isn't only
> the
> lenses that are so professional, it's the CL body that complements their
>
> precision. Ladies and gentlemen, the CL isn't for everyone. It requires
> deliberate
> effort to learn to use it smoothly. But the images are worth that extra
> patience
> and acquired skills.
>
> br
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