Re: [Leica] Digilux?

["Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>]

heh, there is Porsche and then there is Porsche. My VPR Matrix Computer
monitor has "design by F.A. Porsche" inscribed on it; I'd doubt it came off
a German assembly line.





- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Digilux?


> Sonny
>
> Sounds just like the arguments we had in the Porsche world about
> the "Porsche" 914, 924, and 944.  My position was/ is "If it wasn't
> made in the Porsche factory, it isn't a Porsche"  Do you have any
> problem with that?
>
> Jerry
>
> Sonny Carter wrote:
>
> > Larry, there's a lot of that going on in the world today.  If you buy a
> > Mazda truck, it will probably be built by Ford in Mexico with a German
> > engine, and maybe a French Tranny.   If you buy an Isuzu pickup truck,
rest
> > assured it was made by some us rednecks in Louisiana.
> >
> > Leica has been having  P&S cameras made by Japanese companies (mostly
> > Panasonic)  for some years, and elements of the R cameras and some
lenses
> > were made in Japan by various manufacturers.
> >
> > I guess there's no answer your question of to what extent does Solms
have to
> > be involved to call it a Leica is purely hypothetical.  There are some
who
> > say if it wasn't made in Wetzlar it is not a true Leica, but they would
be
> > discounting lots of nice Canadian made equipment.
> >
> > If we follow your line, some Noctiluxes were made by General Motors,
because
> > for a while they were the owners of the Midland plant where the
light-sucker
> > was made.
> >
> > 'tis a hard question with probably no answer, but I do consider my Lika
> > Leica, Leica quality
> >
> > Sonny
> > (who lived in Wetzlar, visited Solms, but has no actual Leica-made parts
in
> > his construction.)
> > http://www.sonc.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <LRZeitlin@aol.com>
> > To: <leica-users-digest@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:01 AM
> > Subject: [Leica] Digilux?
> >
> > > Question:
> > >
> > > I know of at least four different cameras, made by two manufacturers,
> > bearing
> > > the name Leica Digilux. One series, the Fuji made Digiluxes, were
simply
> > the
> > > cosmetically altered Fuji Finepix 1700, 1700 Zoom, and 4800 cameras.
The
> > other
> > > is the Panasonic DC5 variation. With the Fuji cameras, Leica didn't
even
> > > claim responsibility for the lens. All they contributed was an
expensive
> > brochure
> > > and the red Leica dot. Even the manual was printed in Japan. Leica
claims
> > to
> > > have a hand in designing the Panasonic version but their touch seems
very
> > light
> > > indeed.
> > >
> > > How much of an influence does Leica have to have in the design of a
camera
> > to
> > > be truly regarded as a Leica? Does it make the lens? Does it make the
> > body?
> > > Does it simply lease the rights to the name? If the red dot falls off
my
> > (Fuji)
> > > Leica Digilux Zoom, is it still a Leica?
> > >
> > > This is a question worthy of Philosophy 101. You know, like the famous
> > broken
> > > knife problem. If a knife blade breaks and you replace the blade, then
the
> > > handle breaks and you replace the handle, is it the same knife?
> > >
> > > Larry Z
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