Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/29

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Subject: RE: [Leica] National Geographic scandal
From: "Charles E Cason Jr" <cec@vbe.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:04:27 -0500

Watching the NG channel yesterday I saw a wild life
photographer getting his shots in by using motion trip
cameras at a watering hole.  Beautiful shots, but I don't
think he was holding the camera.  Does this count as nature
photography?

Changing name the R Charles Cason, formally known as M
Cason.

The Rev Canon Charles E Cason Jr
1805 Arlington Drive
Oshkosh, WI  54904

mailto:cec@vbe.com

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of
bdcolen
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:32 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] National Geographic scandal

Am I not correct in thinking that many times over the years
the Geo has
in fact shown in great detail how it is "set up" nature
shots, closing
off a little area of a stream with Plexiglas, cutting a
piece out of a
tree to create a window onto a nest, etc. etc. I've always
assumed that
these kinds of things were done...realistically, how else
would one get
allot of these kinds of shots?

B. D.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf
Of Douglas
Herr
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:09 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] National Geographic scandal


Phong <phong@doan-ltd.com> wrote:

>
> If it's staged, it's staged.  I don't have any problem
> with that.  Just say it's so.  Just say that you have
> better things to do than waiting for those silly birds,
> and I'd understand.

This photo was not labeled as staged.  If it's staged it
misrepresents
the kingfisher and its behavior.  No matter how careful a
human is to
re-create actual animal behavior or habitat we're going to
miss some
detail(s) that may be vital to understanding what makes the
critter
'tick'.


Doug Herr
Birdman of Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com
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