Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/09/06

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: Re: [Leica] re: gun balderdash & photos - Stalin and the Long March, (also Ancient Astronomy)
From: Marc James Small <msmall@infionline.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 20:06:41 -0400
References: <3.0.2.32.20030904212936.023b6ac0@pop.infionline.net> <3.0.2.32.20030904212936.023b6ac0@pop.infionline.net>

At 09:03 PM 9/4/03 -0600, Greg J. Lorenzo wrote:
>Marc James Small wrote in part:
>
>>
>>Now, to my knowledge, neither Ben Cartwright, General MacArthur, Chiang,
>>nor "Uncle Joe" Stilwell 
>>
>
>Its "Vinegar Joe" Mark.

Sorry, Greg, but you are wrong.  "Vinegar Joe" was an epithet applied by
those who disliked him.  His own troops called him "Uncle Joe", an
appellation he loved.  See Barbara Tuchman's magisterial STILWELL AND THE
AMERICAN EXPERIENCE IN CHINA for discussion.

Stilwell is a fascinating chap.  His two greatest boosters in the Army were
Douglas MacArthur and George C Marshall, both of whom Stilwell, unique in
the Army, called by their first names.  Stilwell was wasted in China:  it
was Marshall's original intention to give him command of TORCH, and a
European command headed by Stilwell would undoubtedly have been a bit
crisper and less conflicted than it was under Eisenhower.

Stilwell, also, ranks with McClellan as the greatest trainers the US Army
has ever had.

Marc

msmall@infionline.net  FAX:  +540/343-7315
Cha robh bąs fir gun ghrąs fir!

- --
To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html

Replies: Reply from Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net> (Re: [Leica] re: gun balderdash & photos - Stalin and the Long March, (also Ancient Astronomy))
Reply from Marc James Small <msmall@infionline.net> (RE: [Leica] re: gun now Marc praising McClellan?)
In reply to: Message from Marc James Small <msmall@infionline.net> (Re: [Leica] re: gun balderdash & photos - Stalin and the Long March, (also Ancient Astronomy))
Message from Marc James Small <msmall@infionline.net> (Re: [Leica] re: gun balderdash & photos - Stalin and the Long March, (also Ancient Astronomy))