Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No, Tina, you're not being naive - you're sticking up for some very important principles. And when people stop sticking up for them photographs will no longer have any value as anything other than eye candy and propagand. It's bad enough that today the single most biased electronic media outlet declares itself to be "fair and balanced," but the day we start accepting the idea that it doesn't matter if we pose "news" and "documentary" photographs because, after all, we have a story to tell and posing helps us tell the story, we might as well all give up. B. D. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Tina Manley Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:52 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] re: The Decisive Moment is gone At 09:38 AM 11/5/2003 -0800, you wrote: I have to say this is the best discussion I've ever read on the LUG. You might agree or disagree with what had been said, but it has certainly made me think! Tim's comments about B&W being a distortion of reality (sorry, that crosses over to the NPPA list) really make me wonder about the objections to digital manipulations. I never objected to the dodging and burning that is prohibited by most photojournalist's guidelines, but I object strongly to directing the subjects before the photograph has been taken. We have been discussing manipulation before the photograph is taken, but NPPA is also concerned with manipulation after the photograph is taken. If you take away distracting elements in the background by burning them out, are you being dishonest? Patrick Schneider, an award winning photographer for the Charlotte Observer, had NPPA awards taken away because he burned in the background of some photos to eliminate distractions. He didn't pose the subjects or interfere in any way with what was happening. All of the manipulation was done after the fact. In a couple of the photographs it's really hard to see that he even burned in the background, but the rewards were rescinded and he was suspended for three days without pay. To me, burning in the background to emphasize the subjects would not even compare to directing the subjects and asking them to perform for the camera. What is the difference? All of this is making my hair hurt!! I have definite opinions about what is right and wrong. Am I being naive? Tina Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html