RE: [Leica] some new snaps, a propos

["B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

All valid points...If all the world's a stage, the West Bank has been
center stage for many years now, and everyone crossing it is a player of
some sort.

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Appleby
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Subject: Re: [Leica] some new snaps, a propos


I don't think that was exactly the point I was making, but anyway.

After spending quite a while in Palestine over the last couple of years,
I began to see the whole thing as largely a show, in which the soldiers,
palestinian civilians, settlers and even the media play their parts. But
by this I don't mean anything as crude as that they consciously set up
situations. I think you have to have seen the way stonethrowing, curfew,
stopping kids going to school etc etc works, to appreciate the
ritualistic, theatrical atmosphere of the whole, and this is what
interests me and what I am trying to express in these images. The
particular presentation is intended to emphasise the pictureness of the
pictures, so to speak.

- -- Rob

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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Welch" <eric@jphotog.com>
To: "Leicalist" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] some new snaps, a propos


> I don't see any proof that those things happened because the 
> photographers were there.
>
> Or even that those are real photojournalists. I guess it's up to our 
> trust in your credibility that the photos you show the world portray 
> what you claim they do.
>
> How can I believe them when you have an obvious agenda to prove that 
> point (that photographers influence anything they photograph), and you

> admit you are willing to manipulate situations to say what you want, 
> regardless of whether the photos reflect reality or not? According to 
> you, it makes no difference.
>
> Based on your arguments, I don't buy it. If those are real 
> photographers I have no reason to believe the situations they were 
> covering wouldn't have happened if they were there or not.
>
> You say so? Well, excuse me for being skeptical anyway.
>
> on 11/6/03 11:20 PM, Rob Appleby at rob@robertappleby.com wrote:
>
> > Anyway, I have been meditating on all these issues quite a bit over 
> > the
last
> > year, and one of my major concerns now in my work is to show the
distorting
> > effect of the media and to integrate the presence of the 
> > photographer
into
> > the image. A first attempt at such:
> >
> > http://robertappleby.com/images/new.pdf
>
>
> Eric Welch
> Carlsbad, CA
> http://www.jphotog.com
>
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