Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/27

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Subject: RE: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution...
From: "Kit McChesney" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:12:55 -0700

Jerry--

Actually, you're not being defensive and sensitive. And I know you're not
senile yet. I think--with all due respect--you're just being crotchedy! 

Kit


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:38 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution...

Kit

I certainly did. I do know a bit about screen settings and resolution,
thank you. I am not senile yet.

I do not have any Windows later than 98. I do not have the auto-
sizing capabilities of Windows 2000 and on.

I do NOT want to shut down and restart my computer just to see
one picture.

See, I am getting just as sensitive and defensive as you arty types :-)

Jerry

Kit McChesney wrote:

> Jerry--
>
> Did it ever occur to you that your computer may be set to a different
> resolution than the standard, and that it could be your own view that
needs
> to be resized? ;-)
>
> Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:03 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The limit of DSLR resolution...
>
> Richard
>
> With all that manipulation, its too bad that you did not size the photo so
> it could be seen without scrolling.
>
> Jerry
>
> "Richard F. Man" wrote:
>
> > Not digital bashing as I will probably pick one up some times next year.
> > Not digital worshipping either as I don't have one and just spent some
$$$
> > or an M6 and a Noct'.
> >
> > Anyway, some interesting experiments this last weekend. We have some
> > costuming friends came by and took some shots outdoor in the park, and
> then
> > I set up the Studio flash setup in the house and shot some more
pictures.
> A
> > friend was shooting the indoor flash pics with his Canon D60. He tends
to
> > only shoot at around 2000x1300 (~2.5 MP) instead of the full 6MP since
he
> > doesn't normally print them out. For this shoot, I used Astia 100F, and
as
> > usual, I bulk scanned them (all 7 rolls) at around 2200x1400 resolution
> and
> > then down sampled them for web. If someone wants a print, I rescan them
at
> > the full 4000dpi and print.
> >
> > Interesting things: first of all, the D60 color is more saturated (which
> is
> > what he set it up for), and more importantly, more accurate. The
NikonScan
> > software tends to add blue when scanning but even looking at the slides
> > themselves, Astia 100F does not have the "punch" and some of the
accuracy.
> > Second, the difference with the details are pretty amazing. For example:
> > http://www.dmk26.net/tmp/IMG_0485.JPG
> > vs.
> > http://www.dragonsgate.net/pub/richard/tony/IMG018.jpg
> >
> > I did some minor USM sharpening for the web presentation (and a little
> > unsharpening is always needed since I have ICE dust removal on), but
it's
> > not just sharper, but more details. We checked a few other pictures and
> the
> > difference in the detail is consistent between the 2 cameras (actually 3
> as
> > I used both the M6 with the VC 75/2.5 and M7 w/ Summicron 50). I didn't
> use
> > the 90/2 AA indoor since the flash sync is only 1/50 and I wasn't sure I
> > get good result with the 90/2 because of that, but no doubt the
difference
> > is there too. He used a Canon 50/1.8 prime, which is about 80 mm
> equivalent
> > on the D60. Since most 50mm lens are excellent, I think the difference
in
> > details is probably due to the resolution difference with the film vs.
> > digital sensor.
> >
> > Now even though our resolutions are similar to start with, the fact that
> he
> > did not use full 6MP may have an effect. It would be interesting to do
> some
> > comparison using full 6Mp resolution. We plan to do that at some pints
in
> > the future.
> >
> > // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly,
please
> > use richard@imagecraft.com)
> >
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