Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/02

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Subject: RE: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
From: Allen Graves <ahgraves@prodigy.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:24:31 -0600
References: <200312030324.hB33OwQ04293@perch.serverhost.net>

Comparing a  digital camera with ho-hum specs to a high quality 
rangefinder is like comparing an f6.8 P&S camera to an M3 with a 
Noctilux. Both can take a good snapshot 
but...................................

Allen




>It's may surprise you, but there are many interested folks in this camera,
>despite the price tag. My phone has been ringing quite a bit today and my
>email is busy, too. There will always be folks to whom something like this
>will appeal, and to others, no. It was the same with the MP. It was roundly
>criticized here, and in other public places (probably because most of the
>folks who feel free to post messages are those who are pretty outspoken
>anyway, and the quieter folks usually say very little), but it sold well,
>and still continues to sell well.
>
>Some folks like one thing, others another. It's a matter of taste, and
>largely, I think, buying decisions are based on pure emotion. I'm sure
>there's hardly a person in "here" who would deny that the visual appeal of
>his or her M6, or the design of a lens, or some other factor other than pure
>utility, was the straw that broke the camel's back and sent him/her running
>like mad dogs to the camera store. How many times have we all stood in front
>of the Leica case and lusted heartily over what was inside? Come on, 'fess
>up.
>
>The thing that really seems to get everyone steaming is price, though. I
>think our poor weak dollar has more to do with this than just about anything
>else. That and Leica's 19th century manufacturing model. One at a time, one
>at a time. That's why we like 'em. They're made by hand. Only 12 M cameras a
>day "roll" off the bench. Actually, they travel around in a little wooden
>crate until all 12 are finished at whatever stage, and then on to the next
>workbench.
>
>Leica is a luxury item, just like Aston Martin, and Jerry's beloved
>Testarossa. A beautifully engineered and well-designed item as well.
>
>Kit
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Ted Bayer
>Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
>
>
>Kit:
>
>No need to apologize.  It's not something you or any other dealer can
>control.   I think the boys at Solms were drinking too much Schnapps when
>they put the pencil to this deal.
>
>I agree with those who are disappointed.  It is sad too see strong
>supporters of Leica products saying it's over-the-top.  But they are stating
>the facts, and that's what we all have to look at if we are realistic about
>the camera.
>
>If the initial reaction in any indication,  I would venture a guess that
>this camera isn't going to move very well.
>
>Ted
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kit McChesney" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:20 PM
>Subject: RE: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
>
>
>>  Sorry, guys. If I could make them myself, I'd be able to price them
>myself,
>>  too!
>>
>>  Kit
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>  [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Sonny Carter
>>  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:51 PM
>>  To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>  Subject: RE: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
>>
>>  --- "Kit McChesney"  wrote:
>>  "Okey, dokey. It's $1850.00. List is $2100.00
>>  Kit"
>>
>>  That is indeed disappointing.   Though the Panasonic LC1 price should be
>>  considerably lower.  My guess still is at just under a grand, though the
>>  feature set doesn't look worth $500 more than the LC1.
>>
>>  The D-lux is about $820  The Panasonic camera it is derived from sells for
>>  $325. No leather case or red dot.
>>
>>  The Digilux 1 sold for $895, my Panasonic LC5 was about $500. The lens
>still
>>  says "Leica."  (I know gnomes did not grind the elements.)
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Sonny
>>  http://www.sonc.com
>>  Natchitoches, LA, USA
>  >
>>  "You can't always get what you want, but sometimes, if you try, you can
>get
>>  what you need"
>>  The Stones
>>
>>
>>
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