Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Sorry, I was not remembering it correctly, exactly. The film came first, and shortly aftewards, when they sent us P3200 to test the developer came along with it. With the explanation that TMax developer (not what it was called when we were testing it) was specifically created for pushing film. It was not designed to be a standard every-day developer. It can function that way, though, and you can get very good results. But the grain will not be minimized as in D-76 1:1. HC-110 was my developer of choice at the time. (Too fond of Ansel I suspect). When I tried it with the first batch of TMY, it blew the highlights out so bad it was nearly unpritable (as in you could get a usable photo as long as you considered usable as in no highlight detail. When the new developer came out, it was so much better I didn't bother trying D-76 for a long time. We were so blown away by what we could do with P3200 and that developer I think I didn't bother using TMY or Tri-X for about two months, except when I shot outdoors. Then I used TMX. This was while I was in grad. school at the University of Missouri. There were several of us in the test and our results were pretty uniform. So, HC-110 and TMax developer are substantially different. Phenodone is used in a lot of developers (ID-11, no?) and the only similarity I could detect is they both started out as liquids. HC-110 has a nasty tendency to increase grain (something Ansel never bothered with because by the time he shot 35mm on a regular basis, he was so old he had no desire to experiment with a new film/developer/processing combination). On Dec 6, 2003, at 11:35 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > But i still very clearly recall the film coming out way before it's > proprietary developer and what a disaster that was and reading all > about > how the Kodak engineers or chemists what ever they are used D-76 to > tweak the film until they had it right to release and THEN went to work > on a developer which would make it even better. One thing at a time. > But > was worse. If they had a secret formula way ahead of time which they > sent to Eric and Sexton then that's great but I'd think HP-110 would be > close enough. It's just another liquid Phenidone developer. > It was never explained what made the T-Max developer in whatever > version > significantly different or better than HC110 and I'm not sure it is. > I'm > afraid I think of it as HC110 with a T-Max label on it. Eric Carlsbad, CA "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man [person] in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt prior to investigation." - --Herbert Spencer - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html