Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/15

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Less Talkin', More Picturin'
From: eric@jphotog.com
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:01:44 -0600 (CST)
References: <20031215211254.GE14595@jbm.org>

Are you creating file names that have spaces in them? That's a web no-no.
It looks as if thatmight be the case with those %20 things in the path names. That's either a
space or someother coding some web browsers don't like.

> 2003-12-15-14:12:55 Aaron Sandler:
>> Oh dear.  I'm not sure what the problem is.  I just checked them on
>> two  different computers and they both work.  (Windows machines
>> running internet  explorer.)  That page was created using photoshop's
>> automatic web photo  gallery thing.
>>
>> Do any of you web gurus know what's wrong?
>
> Have a look at the paths to the pictures.  Here's the URL given for one
> of the thumbnails:
>
>  http://www.duke.edu/~ajs2/Pix2003/thumbnails\ahh%20tree.jpg
>
> ...and here's the URL given for the underlying photo:
>
>  http://www.duke.edu/~ajs2/Pix2003/pages\ahh%20tree.htm
>
> Note the backslashes ("\") where the proper separator between
> directory ("folder") levels is the slash ("/").  Backslashes used this
> way are a Windows (and DOS before it) thing.
>
> A URL like:
>
>  http://www.duke.edu/~ajs2/Pix2003/pages/ahh%20tree.htm
>
> works fine.  Oh, note the "%20", which is an encoding of a space
> character.  Having space characters in file and directory names
> generally works, encoded as above, but avoiding them can reduce the
> likelihood of some other classes of problem.
>
> If some browsers displayed this page as you intended (to distinguish
> this from "correctly"), I can only guess that the browsers have some
> workaround built-in: perhaps they try the URL as written, then rewrite
> it with slashes instead of backslashes and try again if the target
> wasn't found?
>
> This sort of browser hack seems like a bad idea to me -- it would mask
> errors in sites, and, as seen here, allow you view your page before
> publishing the address publicly and think it would load properly when
> it actually wouldn't.  Were I prone to anti-Microsoft conspiracy
> theory, I'd note that this would work out well for them: page
> hierarchies incorrectly using the Windows separator convention would
> view fine from other Windows machines, leading to a perception that the
> non-Microsoft software which doesn't show them as hoped is what is
> broken, when the opposite is the case.
>
> Consider trying a few browsers for your personal testing, or at least
> one from the Mozilla family, which seems particularly close to
> standards-compliant these days:
>
>  http://mozilla.org/
>
> Firebird and the main Mozilla branch each have their appeal.
>
> -Jeff
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In reply to: Message from Jeff Moore <jbm@jbm.org> ([Leica] Re: Less Talkin', More Picturin')