Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/02/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]That hotel is up in the mountains at one of the ski resorts the exact location escapes me at the moment "Honey I'm Home" ernie On Feb 4, 2004, at 4:49 PM, B. D. Colen wrote: > Nice stuff, Ernie - I love "famous actor taunting my mother!" BTW - > Isn't the Broadmore the "The Shinning" hotel? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Ernest > Nitka > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:19 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] Film "died" for me this week > > > John - reread Rabiner's Rabid Redux :) Found it interesting as you did > - Mark I agree with much of what you have written about. On the other > hand I too have fallen under the spell of digital and present for > amusement > > http://www.enitka.com/colorado.html > > taken with digital elph. I still love my M but sometimes digital is > ok. The new leica digital is too much $. The elph plus my Apple iBook > are the same as the digilux. I'll stick with my combo > > ernie > > enitka@twcny.rr.com > Ernestnitka@aol.com > www.enitka.com > On Feb 4, 2004, at 9:07 AM, John Collier wrote: > >> Mark is one of the hidden gems of the LUG. At first as a new >> subscriber to the Leica "equipment" list you do not understand where >> he is coming from. You find yourself puzzling on what the heck he is >> talking about. Then you suddenly realize he is, and only ever is, >> talking about photography. Mountains of cold bright sliver and nebula >> sized dye clouds firmly affixed to film and paper are what interests >> him. >> >> It keeps me quiet for a while and has me only commenting on what I >> know and wishing it was more than it is. >> >> John Collier >> >> On Feb 4, 2004, at 5:00 AM, sam wrote: >> >>> I almost skimmed & passed your post because it is long. I'm glad I >>> read the whole thing through. It's going into my save box. >>> >>> Sam S >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark Rabiner wrote: >>>> This of course is a real pain in the ass thing to say on the Leica >>>> Users >>>> List but when this kind of post happens I wonder and my question >>>> often has >>>> been this in effect: >>>> How much died? >>>> Was he a great person with a great future? A great loss? >>>> How tragic of a thing are we really talking about here? >>>> Perhaps this person was slight and is finally being put to of a long > >>>> drawn >>>> out misery. >>>> We should cry a whole lot less maybe. >>>> Are we having a big funeral for what lets face it had been a fairly >>>> small >>>> commitment in the first place? I hope not! >>>> Had they been in their darkroom cranking out 16x20's every weekend >>>> and now >>>> they're ratcheting out even more exquisite reams of A3's instead as >>>> they >>>> answer their email? >>>> Had they been shooting a brick of Kodachrome every week but now >>>> wearing a >>>> necklace of compact flash cards around their neck like dog tags? >>>> When you see a post like this it strongly implies the PROCESS let >>>> them down. >>>> Has been proved mediocre. >>>> The new one is taking over as it reigns supreme. >>>> This implies strongly the strength in the new technology and the >>>> weakness in >>>> the old. >>>> But when I ask if I get an answer it's amazingly often a sheepish >>>> "No they'd >>>> not really been using their cameras that much anyway for quite some >>>> time. >>>> The darkroom had been sitting mainly dormant. >>>> They have no real body of work >>>> No stack of prints to show friends when they come over. >>>> No "book" as in prints stuck in pages. >>>> No tray (round of 80 slides to stick on a projector). Or Pages of >>>> slides or >>>> in boards. >>>> No website. >>>> Nothing uploaded much of anywhere. >>>> Not much of nothin. >>>> They are 4x6" once every month or so minilab for the most part >>>> people. >>>> So I wonder; How much Tri X had he been shooting?. >>>> ...Before giving it up for charge coupled devices. >>>> Did they have so much Dektol in your blood that now they're going to > >>>> go cold >>>> turkey? !! >>>> I'm just guessing no - >>>> It's a new hobby to replace one that wasnąt really there. >>>> Two dozen lenses? That's a sure clue. >>>> Of the two dozen pro's I know personally locally and globally none >>>> of them >>>> come close to using or owning Two dozen Leica lenses for their >>>> shooting that >>>> I can think of. >>>> Is this the death of a Leica shooter? >>>> Because it just sounds like a funeral for a Leica collector or Leica > >>>> buyer >>>> and seller. A Leica dabbler. >>>> 24 lenses! >>>> That's 3 times 8! >>>> 4 times 6! >>>> Enough glass for 3 4 5 6 committed Leica shooters! >>>> How anyone can look me straight in the face and put out the phrase >>>> "Canon >>>> Rebel with the $100 18-55mm lens." as a balance of some kind against > >>>> a more >>>> than abundant setup of Leica gear is beyond me!!! What could be the >>>> correlation between one of those cheap plastic zoom lenses and any >>>> Leica >>>> glass ever made including wale blubber incrusted? >>>> ...A "Rebel" against an M or R? How do they in any way relate? >>>> Opposites perhaps? That's pretty simple actually! >>>> But as I said earlier when someone says they're going digital now I >>>> say: >>>> "Really how lovely!!!" >>>> "Lets look at your prints!!!!!!" >>>> I love to see how the two technologies compare. >>>> I LOVE to see how the new A3's (11.7x16.5") and letter sized prints >>>> stack up >>>> against the old thick 11x14's and 8x10's. >>>> They stick out on all sides by about 3/4s of an inch and get all >>>> crinkled at >>>> the edges that's how! >>>> I think plenty of people who struggled in the darkroom do fine at >>>> their >>>> computer. Maybe printing now for the first time. >>>> But also very much visa versa. >>>> They are just tools put into the hands of the unskilled and >>>> uncommitted to >>>> produce very casual results. Hopefully to be traded for something >>>> else >>>> sooner than later. And without making a Federal case out of it. >> -- >> To unsubscribe, see >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html