Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/02/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Joe If he needs Salvation from us, to whom do we direct it? Jerry Joe Leung wrote: > Jerry, > > In situation and in this forum, may be we should say: "Ask not what he can > do for us. Ask what we can do for him"! > > Joe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@pacbell.net> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 8:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Leica] FS: Buyer Beware! an open letter > > > Joe > > > > Yes, but why tell us about his private negotiations unless it could > > help us? How could it help us? > > > > Jerry > > > > Joe Leung wrote: > > > > > Jerry, > > > > > > I think Mark is very kind. He tried to send a warning to the seller and > to > > > give him a final chance to resolve the matter privately before exposing > his > > > identity. I hope the seller will do something about it before it's too > late. > > > > > > Good luck Mark. > > > > > > Joe L. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@pacbell.net> > > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:27 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] FS: Buyer Beware! an open letter > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > Since you have withheld the sellers name, your message does > > > > not prevent any of us from falling into a similar trap from the > > > > same seller. > > > > > > > > Otherwise, why send an "open letter"? > > > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > Mark Theken wrote: > > > > > > > > > Over the past two years, I have made many mutually > > > > > beneficial transactions with LUG participants. I > > > > > deeply regret the necessity to post this message > > > > > regarding a recent transaction. The seller, by > > > > > refusing to respond to my correspondence, has given me > > > > > no alternative to seek the refund I have requested > > > > > over the past 2 weeks. > > > > > Dear XXXXXXX: > > > > > I am requesting that you acknowledge the sale and > > > > > guarantee of originality of black paint M3 # 993XXX > > > > > which I received from you on 2/6/2004. I contacted > > > > > you immediately after receiving this camera and > > > > > politely stated my concerns regarding the authenticity > > > > > of this camera. The documentation you claimed prior > > > > > to the sale was unavailable. Because you were unable > > > > > to provide copies of this documentation, I politely > > > > > requested that you accept the return of this camera > > > > > and refund the purchase price. You responded with a > > > > > refusal to discuss this transaction any further. > > > > > Curiously, you also ignored my request to provide a > > > > > sales receipt for this mail order transaction. > > > > > Regardless, I have copies of the bank draft, made > > > > > payable to you, in the amount of USD $6225. > > > > > Based upon your claim of expertise in authenticating > > > > > rare Leica cameras, I made the good faith and sight > > > > > unseen purchase of this camera which you listed for > > > > > sale on the LUG website. It has since been > > > > > established by three internationally recognized Leica > > > > > collectors that this camera was altered from the > > > > > original 1960 production at some point in time. That > > > > > message was forwarded to you 2/20/2004. Based upon > > > > > this information, two possibilities exist. > > > > > 1-Your representation of the authenticity and > > > > > guarantee of originality of black paint M3 # 993XXX > > > > > was erroneous. > > > > > 2-You were aware that this camera had been altered > > > > > since the original production in 1960. Your refusal > > > > > to respond to any of my correspondence about this > > > > > transaction makes this very disturbing to me. > > > > > You stated in our correspondence that this camera has > > > > > a value of two times the price that I paid. In > > > > > reality, the value is more likely 50% of the price I > > > > > paid. If you are convinced that the value of the > > > > > camera is as you have stated, reversing this > > > > > transaction should be a very simple economic decision > > > > > for you. > > > > > As I stated in my previous messages to you, by > > > > > returning the purchase amount of USD $6225 to attorney > > > > > Alfred Wolsky in Arlington, MA, we can both walk away > > > > > from this transaction undamaged. Mr. Wolsky, the > > > > > Legal Officer of the LHSA, has graciously agreed at my > > > > > request to act as an escrow agent. He will hold the > > > > > camera to be returned to you by whatever arrangements > > > > > you make with him. In that event, I am willing to > > > > > accept that the first possibility listed above is > > > > > correct. I think we both will sleep much better with > > > > > that conclusion to this matter. > > > > > Your frequent posts to the LUG over the past two years > > > > > have stated your expectation of a high level of > > > > > integrity from LUG participants. It is now time for > > > > > you to act as you expect others to. It is not my > > > > > intention to impeach your expertise, integrity or > > > > > standing within the LUG or LHSA community in any way. > > > > > > > > > > I feel it is in our mutual best interest for you to > > > > > respond to this request immediately. > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Mark Theken > > > > > telephone: 330-494-3552 > > > > > marktheken@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Get better spam protection with Yahoo! 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