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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Digilux 2 short hands-on test
From: Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 16:25:29 +0100 (MET)
References: <003a01c401f5$b88f2260$600110ac@CCA4A5EF37E11E>

I know, I know. I'm just watching your back. :) If someone comes out and
claims you've been bad-mouthing the Leica D II based on Panasonic data
(yes, same box), .... :)

Funny thing though. This German magazine, FOTO, usually has a few pages
(20 or so) like a catalogue over digital cameras, scanners, what-not. It's
in alphabetical order.

You won't find _anything_ under Leica. They don't even bother listing the
Leica models. They're found under Panasonic instead.

Sometimes I think Leica might be playing it safe (and not sorry). They're
not very big on electronics and the overhead of marketing a line of new
digital cameras must be huge. So they license out their glass to
Panasonic. That gets them into the game. They can use the association to
Panasonic to pick up a few pointers on this new ballgame (electronics)
and try and catch up. At they same time they can relatively cheaply come
out with their own (Panasonic), keeping their foot in there. All the while
they're getting some revenue from the glass that has been licensed out to
Panasonic and Panasonic does all the marketing (well, not _all_ but most).
It's kind of a safe way to get into the market without getting too risky.
Leica is just a little company. They need that safety net.


Daniel

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, B. D. Colen wrote:

> Ohmigod. They are the SAME camera, for God's sake. We're not talking
> differences in image quality created by software, we're talking
> differences in national/ethno color preferences.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Ridings
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:22 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Digilux 2 short hands-on test
>
>
> > The C5060 is an excellent high-end P&S. It's viewfinder is nothing to
> > write home about, but beyond that, I have no complaints. Of course
> > it's nowhere near as 'cool' as the Digi2. But frankly, it doesn't
> > surprise me at all that it came out even with, or slightly ahead of
> > the digi2.
>
> Just to be clear (and correct), your statement should read: "slightly
> ahead of the Panasonic". The digi2 wasn't tested (will be next month)
> but they did give the reader a comparison between the Panasonic and the
> Digilux 2 (the bundled software).
>
> Now, I doubt that the extra price tag will necessarily give it the edge
> over the Panasonic and thus the Olympus :)
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> That
> > is, essentially, the point I've been trying to make since the Digi2
> > was
> > announced- Hey, gang, it's an $1800! friggin point and shoot, with a
> > essentially the same tiny sensor the $500-700 point and shoots have.
> But
> > hey, it looks like a Leica - so it must be worth 3x what similar
> cameras
> > cost. ;-)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Eric
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:25 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: [Leica] Re: Digilux 2 short hands-on test
> >
> >
> > Daniel:
> >
> > >FOTO (a German magazine) compared the Panasonic DMC-LC1 (Digilux 2)
> > >to the Olympus C-5060 (Olympus came out every so slightly on top
> >
> > I bought my wife the C-5060 for Christmas.  She loves it.  I'm
> > impressed for a point & shoot digital.  Lots of nice features.  It was
>
> > $600.  That doesn't bode well for either Panasonic or Leica if the
> > $600 camera comes out slightly ahead over something 2-3x its price.
> >
> >
> > Eric
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In reply to: Message from "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> (RE: [Leica] Re: Digilux 2 short hands-on test)