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Subject: [Leica] Re: Paw
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Mon May 17 21:46:21 2004
References: <BCCEA643.C4A1%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I have read that the eye has a focal length about the same as a Minox 
lens (15mm). The article explained that Minox pix have about the same 
DoF as human vision - depends on pupil dilation I suppose.
Frank

On 18 May, 2004, at 01:26, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> On 5/17/04 8:52 AM, "Slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> The f1.4 at 20-24" does for me what the f1 even at 1 meter can't do.  
>> That
>> is, give me an image that is consistently well controlled with regard 
>> to
>> isolation of focus area and composition.
>> It's a sure bet that eventually I'll get the 85mm f1.4.
>> S. Dimitrov
>>
>>
>>> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 10:53:20 -0400
>>> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: PsAW
>>>
>>> Actually, I hate the razor-thin dof with the noctilux, find it
>>> unrealistic and distracting - particularly in daylight situations it
>>> creates an images that looks as though it's constructed by layering
>>> paper cutouts. I'm absolutely convinced that if the noct somehow had
>>> reasonably depth of field at f 1 - say2-3-4-6 inches, people who had
>>> paid whatever for the lens would rave out about...The non-existant 
>>> dof
>>> is, to my way of viewing, a real  draw-back, particularly as there is
>>> absolutely no real-world situation, other than perhaps threading a
>>> needle, where that's what the human eye perceives..so I'm reasonably
>>> happy with f 2 - at smaller aps there is just too damn much dof...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
>>> Of
>>> Eric
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 8:27 AM
>>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>> Subject: [Leica] Re: PsAW
>>>
>>>
>>> B.D.:
>>>
> When I look at the front of my desk anything past the front edge at 
> all goes
> quickly out of focus. With marvelous dancing Bokeh like a field of
> wildflowers
> With the Noct. f1 at 20 thirty feet away is no longer that effect
>
> Right now it is raining with the sun out. As I stare at my rosebush 40 
> feet
> away between the sidewalk and the street the other side of the rose 
> bush is
> out of focus and it's only a couple of feet away. I think my Noctilux 
> has
> more DOF than that.
> Don?t underestimate the selectiveness of human vision BD. Try looking 
> around
> you really only see one thing at a time.
> Chipmunks though see in f64 they need this depth for accurate acorn
> gathering.
> Those with tunnel vision quickly went the way of the albino flying 
> squirrel.
>
> Mark Rabiner
> Photography
> Portland Oregon
>
>
>
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>
>
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