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Subject: [Leica] The 180 Summicron/noctilux
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (robertmeier@usjet.net)
Date: Sun Jun 20 18:33:54 2004
References: <000301c45671$b83523c0$6401a8c0@dorysrusp4><006c01c45698$343a4bf0$4649c33e@sigmafli1cclvg> <00c601c45715$5a923ec0$4649c33e@sigmafli1cclvg>

This one is a lovely picture:

http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-43722.html

But, surely, it was taken stopped down at least two stops, no?

Bob



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] The 180 Summicron/noctilux


> A p.s.
> the noctilux was my excuse to switch to Leica and though i still can not
use
> it well (i,m still all over , turn the rings the wrong way stuff like
that.
> Highly annoying lack of coordination .Must be getting old.35 is more or
less
> prime for pilots)
> my favourate pictures are all taken with it.
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-50817.html
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-43722.html
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-52892.html
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-52892.html
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-68624.html
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-61224.html
>
> At the time i could not have done them with any other lens.
> I would not have done any better with the 180 would I?
> yes i know i,m no good so that,s meaningless probably but still
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The 180 Summicron
>
>
> > Well i cannot accurately focus a moving target at f1 with a m at ranges
up
> > to 1.5 meters.
> > Weight is no factor i had no problem with a nikon 300 2.8 .
> > And as you point out it is not easy to find a subject plane that is
truely
> > perpendicular to the lenses axis.
> > one eye unsharp with faces for instance.That and the narrower dof at
close
> > range is holding me back.
> > I have 2 nice offers for a 180.
> > For my birthday i got the book portraits from Mario Testino and i
noticed
> > that many pictures have the plane of focus in front of the face often on
a
> > shoulder with the eyes just behind.
> > That cannot be misfocusing  and is a nice solution to the problem
> producing
> > a flattering softness around the eyes of the older then 20 .
> > My Canon using sport pro friend showed me what a 180 can do on an eos at
> > close range with a fast subject(cookie at speed) and as one would expect
> > just as with the old F5 and the like focus tracking and speed is spot on
> as
> > is exposure all at 7fps or so maybe 8 i forgot.
> > So I guess it would be wisest for me to practise with the m3 and learn
how
> > to develop fast film
> > And wait for a digital full frame(why not larger?) back with a m mount .
> > The ones on offer here also have Rom contacts and my leicaflex sl has
not
> a
> > working meter  so i,d have to get a R8 as well i think.
> > And all that for as yet unknown subject matter.Would be a bit stupid.
> > But as usual you pulled me over the line and i,ll buy it.
> > fond regards
> > simon jessurun
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Some have questioned whether the 180 Summicron is really useable at
F2.
> > > Oh my yes, if you can focus a Noctilux then you can focus the 180.
> > > Depth of field is an issue, but if you think about your shot then you
> > > can control the focal plane by moving the film plane parallel.  As to
> > > being heavy and not suitable for hand holding, bah.  F2 gives you the
> > > fastest shutter speed possible in the light available and the focusing
> > > screen on an R8 is more than up to the task.  I'll have to dig up the
> > > shots I took with this lens at the Leica Seminar at shutter speeds
down
> > > to 1/8th: not perfectly sharp but as reportage priceless.
> > >
> > > Late last year I could not take advantage of a good buy, but if
> > > something similar comes along, I will pick one up in a heart beat.
> > >
> > > 0.02
> > > Don
> > > dorysrus@mindspring.com
> > >
> > >
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