Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/08/18

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Subject: [Leica] OT: Photoshop help!
From: richard-lists at imagecraft.com (Richard F. Man)
Date: Wed Aug 18 05:19:44 2004
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At 05:54 PM 8/15/2004, Karen Nakamura wrote:


>>Well no, Print Preview should match what it prints out so it's doing what 
>>it "supposes" to do. Looks like the problem here is that the color gamut 
>>of the printer is way off, comparing to the Adobe RGB. Possibly you have 
>>a bad printer or bad set of ink? However, if the profile is a generic one 
>>from Epson, this that is what the printer is capable of :-( Under 
>>Photoshop, View->ProofSetUp, select Custom and load your printer ICC 
>>profile and save it. Now you can see a soft proof w/o going to Print 
>>Preview. You should also turn on Gamut Warning.
>
>
>The next step is to save a copy and work with the Soft Proof setting to 
>your printer's profile, and then tweak the color to match what you want. A 
>good way to do that is to duplicate your view and one set to your normal 
>RGB and one to the Soft Proof. Now if only someone writes a PhotoShoop 
>Action that says, "take from this View and make it look like that view" 
>and you would be all set.
>
>OK. I think I've been doing this all wrong then.
>
>This works:  If I go to View->Proof Setup and then select my "Monitor 
>RGB", I get what I've been calling the desaturated version.  I then go to 
>Hue/Saturation and pump up the saturation. Then when I go Print->Preview, 
>the Preview window matches the source image, and then the printed image 
>matches everything.

Uh oh. I believe if you set View->Proof to Monitor RGB and it looks 
substantially different, then there is something wrong with the color 
management set up - either your monitor profile is incorrect or may be you 
can doubly color-managing. e.g. make sure you are not using Adobe Gamma in 
addition to your monitor profile and things like that.

I could be wrong on this of course.

>I guess I had assumed that if I spydered the monitor, then Photoshop would 
>automatically take the monitor ICC into account. But I guess it doesn't 
>until you use:  View->ProofSetup->Monitor RGB

It does. If you spydered your monitor, the utility should have set up the 
monitor profile somewhere in Control Panel->Display->Color Management. So 
check your control panel to make sure it is there. The trick to also make 
sure that Adobe Gamma is NOT in one of the startup groups. Otherwise you 
will get double profiling.

// richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please 
use richard at imagecraft.com) 

In reply to: Message from jonathan at openhealth.org (Jonathan Borden) ([Leica] I could have done that)
Message from richard-lists at imagecraft.com (Richard F. Man) ([Leica] OT: Photoshop help!)
Message from richard-lists at imagecraft.com (Richard F. Man) ([Leica] OT: Photoshop help!)
Message from mail at gpsy.com (Karen Nakamura) ([Leica] OT: Photoshop help!)