Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/22

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Subject: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
From: nicholsj at edge.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Wed Sep 22 18:09:11 2004

Dan,

Thanks for the details on Kodak's B&W products.  I began to wonder about
their consumer products when I purchased a 4-roll pack of Kodak Gold 200
and it said "Made in China for Eastman Kodak".

I examined a 3-roll package of B&W and it said "Made in USA, Finished in
Mexico for Eastman Kodak".

I will have to visit our third-generation Camera/Appliance Store here in
town and see what they have in stock.  I hate to purchase a large lot until
I have had some experience with that particular film.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN


> [Original Message]
> From: Dan Colucci <colucci@thehearth.org>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: 9/22/2004 3:46:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
>
> The key is to use this stuff in moderate to highly contrasty light...in
> low contrast lighting, it turns muddy
>
> Kodak T400CN - first version, long discontiued - wasn't as good as the
> later stuff - printed purple on color paper
> Kodak Portra 400BW - second version  -just discontinued - is/was my
> favorite - can still be found
> Kodak BW400CN - the lastest version - made to print better on color
> paper
>
> Kodak "Black & White" seems to be consumer version of older
> stock..likely its old Portra or possible even old T400CN
>
> Dan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+colucci=thehearth.org@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+colucci=thehearth.org@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Jim Nichols
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:37 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
>
> Dan,
>
> My experience with C41 film has been limited to Kodak BW400-2, the
> comsumer film available at Wal-Mart.  In some instances, it appears to
> offer less contrast and more bland images than I recall from my years of
> using silver-based film.  I was just looking for comments from others
> about their experiences with this type of film.  I have actually made a
> few very good images with the film, so my problem may stem more from my
> technique than from the film.
> I was also curious about the differences in Kodak films of this type.
> Do you know of a reference website that explains the various films and
> their intended uses?
>
> Jim Nichols
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Dan Colucci <colucci@thehearth.org>
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Date: 9/22/2004 7:17:25 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
> >
> > James - I have read your comments twice - what are you saying ?  I 
> > find Kodak Portra BW400, used in contrasty lighting, is just superb 
> > with final tonal range and superb detail...Edge sharpness is lacking, 
> > but I enjoy the smooth tonality, especially for portraits
> >
> > Dan
> > www.antiquecameras.net
> >
> >  
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+colucci=thehearth.org@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+colucci=thehearth.org@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> > Of JAMES NICHOLS
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:27 PM
> > To: LUG@Leica-Users.org
> > Subject: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
> >
> > Comparing results with C41 B&W to the results I got with Plus-X, Super
>
> > XX, and Tri-X in the 1950s and 60s when I had my own darkroom, I have 
> > been somewhat disappointed.  Though, without a darkroom, it appears to
>
> > be the most convenient way to shoot B&W.  However, after pulling the 
> > image below from a cluttered negative taken amid the confusion of a 
> > wedding rehearsal supper, I find that, if I do my job, the film will 
> > take care of itself.  The image shows the bride-to-be, my 
> > granddaughter, in a reflective mood after a busy day, with an even
> busier day ahead.
> >
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/Musings/Bride_to_Be   
> >
> > Leica IIIf RD, Summitar 5cm f/2.0
> > Exposure 1/50 at f/2.8
> > Kodak BW400-2
> >
> >
> > JAMES NICHOLS
> > nicholsj@edge.net
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