[Leica] Zeiss Ikon

[bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)]

I think that's true Steve - because most people are point and shooters.
But if you asked anyone serious enough about photography to consider
buying a Zeiss M mount rangefinder, or a Leica M, they'd damn well know.

Of course I really don't know what started this exchange or what it's
about - Damn drugs! - and I really don't give a rat's poopdeck who wins
the finally shoot out along the Rein... My only point is that it's silly
to think that some Leica magic is going to keep the brand alive with
snakeskin body covers and puce top plates if Zeiss is offering good
quality, more modern features, and a real price break. That's all.

And frankly, when all is said and done seeing leica go down the tubes
makes me feel just a bit sad. One, it makes me feel old, and I'd rather
no feel old. And two, I do associate the brand  with the Giants, and
seeing the brand disappear reminds me of their loss, and of the loss of
the traditions and excellence they represent.

:-)

Oh, and finally Steve - I really like your work, even if you do prefer
cameras that load in weird ways...:-)

B. D.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Steve Unsworth
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 7:28 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Zeiss Ikon


B.D., I think if you asked most people taking photographs what the
fastest shutter speed and the flash sync speed of their camera was you'd
be met with a blank stare.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+mail=steveunsworth.co.uk@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+mail=steveunsworth.co.uk@leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of B. D. Colen
Sent: 03 October 2004 00:20
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Zeiss Ikon


I don't use an external finder with the 28, and I can do fine with the
bottom loader, and I don't use flash with my Ms...But our idiosyncrasies
are not good marketing tools... ;-)

Hey, folks, step right up and buy this camera that has a quirky loading
design that hasn't been updated since the 1920s, a top shutter speed
that was considered fast in 1955, and flash sync that was really hot in
the days when our granddads' used flash bulbs!  Oh, yah, they're going
to rush right up for that one...:-)



-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Steve Unsworth
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 7:10 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Zeiss Ikon


Well, I don't use flash, I've always found 1/1000 fast enough, I prefer
a bottom loader (strange but true!) and I like to use a 28mm lens
without resorting to an external viewfinder.

Other than that I agree totally with you that the Zeiss _may_ be a
better camera ;-)

Steve


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