Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/11/28

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Subject: [Leica] Magnum Stories
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sun Nov 28 13:26:21 2004

It is, but it's a completely different kind of book. "Fifty Years" is
simply a history of the agency; "Magnum Stories" is a photobook that
concentrated on Magnum photographers have gone about shooting various
stories and projects.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
leo
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 3:34 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum Stories


BD,

I haven't read that on yet .

There is also a book called "Fifty Years at the Front Line of  
History-Magnum" by Russell Miller (1997) that is a good read.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0802136532/ 
qid=1101673969/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl14/104-4615303-2400755? 
v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Leo



On Nov 28, 2004, at 12:16 PM, B. D. Colen wrote:

> Got a chance yesterday to actually take a look at this book - For
> anyone
> at all interested not only in the stories behind the stories, but also
> in how Magnum members approach story telling, this is a definite must.
> It includes everything from Capa's D-Day work, to Eugene Smith's  
> Country
> Doctor, to Bruce Davidson's subway project, to stuff by lesser known
> Magnum members - 61 in all. In each case there's an extensive
interview
> or text, and then lot's of images. And for those only interested in
> "Leica photography," allot of this stuff was shot with Leicas, and the
> vast majority of it was shot with film. Someone - I can't immediately
> think of who it was and I haven't yet purchased the book so I can't
> check right away - talks about having used film throughout his career
> and now having to deal with the fact that the film era is approaching
> its end. Interesting, valuable stuff.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:43 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Are there different Summilux 75 versions?
>
>
> On 11/27/04 8:57 AM, "Dan C" <bladman99@yahoo.ca> typed:
>
>> The Leica 75mm Summilux is the one and only lens that I have ever 
>> used
>
>> that had a look to it that was distinctively different (and better)
> than others.
>>    My 90/2 APO-ASPH (or my Minolta 85/1.4 for that matter) is sharper
> but
>> just doesn't take as nice a photo.   I'm sure that others reading
this
> who
>> own both lenses will know what I'm talking about.
>>
>> I am 100% convinced that if Leica ever redesigns the lens it will 
>> just
>
>> become one of a set of sharp medium length tele lens that are a dime
a
>> dozen these days.   As I sell off my collection of Leica lenses
(three
> and
>> counting), the 75 will likely be the last to go.
>>
>> -dan c.
>>
> While not quite seeing Leicas latest generation of ASPH's as a dime a 
> dozen or in any way boring I do think Leica made a wise move in 
> Leaving the 75 like it is, thinking of it was a classic as you do and
coming
> out
> with another 75 inspired by Mr. Koberoski's 2.5 move in high  
> compactness
> and lack of high speed. Although an f2 Summicron 75 would not be
> considered I don't think either a slow or a fast lens it is an  
> OPTIMIZED
> lens. And an optic there is room for in the Leica lineup as having the
> 75 only be in effect a cropped Noctilux has a limited studio audience.
> The 75 1.4 is the only Leica focal length I don't use. the Cosina
> Voigtl?nder 2.5, an early try for him/them under whelmed me and I'd  
> have
> to use it the an adaptor as Its screw mt.
>
> Everyone said here on the list that Leica would not dare to compete
> with
> them on the 75.
> I hoped and thought they would.
> I was right.
>
> I think Leica should come out with an optimal frameline configuration 
> with no 50 smearing up against the 75.
>
> I think they should come out with a configuration in which the middle 
> group instead of of 50 and 75... 40 and 75.
>
> My new 40 Summicron has been glued on my body (the camera one that is)

> for a month. It solves the dilemma as to which lens to bring. The 50 
> or the 35. You just bring the 40 and shift your weight forward or
> backwards
> a little.
>
> 50's are great but an optimal optional set could be:
>
> A 5 40 and 75
> (skip your 35 and 90.
>
> And a 28mm
>
> But reintroduce the Summaron as I said last week for a compact option
> on
> the 28. And a lower cost option at that. A 2.8 super compact amazingly
> sharp lens. Or get an old one with lots of character
>
> So that's a 28, 40, 75 setup.
>
> Which would mean of course they'd have to re introduce the 40.
>
> A 40mm has a Horizontal angle of view of 48 lets call it 50 degrees A 
> 75mm lens has an HAV of 27 call it 30 degrees A 28 lens has an HAV of
> 65
>
> So you've got a 30, 50, 65 degree setup.
>
> That's a nice efficient point spread Nick the Greek would agree.
>
> Extensions of that basic setup would be to go even wider and longer.
>
>
> A 90mm lens has an HAV of slightly less then 20 degrees a 10 point 
> spread. So maybe skip it and go directly to a 135mm hyper APO or 
> cheapo Hektor
> (woof!) which is 15 degrees.
> So you've now got a 15, 30, 50, 65 degree setup.
>
> A 21 pulls you out to 80 carry the one.
>
> The new 18 which seems to be on the horizon to 90 degees.
>
> The total Leica lens set which is available sets you up with a HAV's 
> about 10 degrees apart. You've got a lens in the 10's 20's 30's etc.
>
> I know I could have gotten by with a well planned 20.
> If I only used one body at a time at all shoots.
>
>
> We need more pancakes!!!!
>
>
>
>
> Mark Rabiner
> Photography
> Portland Oregon
> http://rabinergroup.com/
>
>
>
>
>
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