Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/11/28

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: [Leica] Rollei introduces their own brand B&W film
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sun Nov 28 16:52:03 2004

On 11/28/04 3:30 PM, "Deveney, Marty (PIRSA)"
<deveney.marty@saugov.sa.gov.au> typed:

> 
> 
>> Wow is my first reaction:
>> http://www.rollei.de/cct/files/rollei/data/GBA_R3_e.pdf
>> http://www.rollei.de/en/produkte/produkt.cfm?id=Rolls&name=Rolls
> 
> This is another cynical marketing ploy to move traffic film into the
> photographic market.  This film has been available as Maco Cube 400 for 
> some
> time.  Traffic films have multiple layers of different sensitivities so 
> they
> can function at different effective speeds but they lack resolution 
> compared
> to the best 400 speed films and sharpness in comparison to the best
> superspeed films.  They have extended red sensitivity because some
> juristictions use infra-red flashes in red light and speed cameras.  
> Several
> films designed for specialist purposes have been useful for photography -
> High Speed Recording film and some of the copying films like Tech Pan and
> Copex which Simon mentioned recently.  I like many quite weird films, but I
> don't like traffic film, your opinions may well differ.
> 
> And yes, the wooden box *is* cute.


Smells like Teen Desperation to me as well.

Tri x has three layers does it not hence that's how they came up with the
name?

Plus x having one more which to me means two?

Pan means one right?  I may have thought that at one time.
Or clear high tones like played with a flute?

The films which have worked the best for me when I am in what I call "Ansel
Adams mode" are the slow single layer films. Thin.
Which is when I'm using my Hasselblad with the mirror locked up with a
tripod and a cable release and the slowest film I can find with the high rez
developer dilution combination I can find.

When using even medium speed films many of which I'd assume had 2 layers it
was never quite the same. Good old Panatomic x or Ilford Pan F.
But tab grain films and Xtol leveled the playing field on that account
pretty much. Like ACROS and delta 100. And Tmax 100 if you are not using
Xtol. Or Rodinal.

Ansel they say used tri x with his Hassy when he was in Ansel Adams mode. A
mode he was good at.

I never could get myself to have that "glow" and intense separation of all
tones or anything resembling his work with 400 speed films. And lets not
even bring up HC-110 I'm positive John Sexton when the lights were out
switched it with Pyro.

I've printed out their whole 22 page thing but so far it looks like a slower
speed Tri x to me. I'd bet the fast larger grained emulsion was really a
finer grained one but they added some chemical.
 
And as I say I don't do well with thick skinned multiple emulsions.



Mark Rabiner
Photography
Portland Oregon
http://rabinergroup.com/





Replies: Reply from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Rollei introduces their own brand B&W film)
In reply to: Message from deveney.marty at saugov.sa.gov.au (Deveney, Marty (PIRSA)) ([Leica] Rollei introduces their own brand B&W film)