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Subject: [Leica] wet trays.. digital printer. :-) A real world look!
From: keith at wbalaw.com (Keith R. Wessel)
Date: Thu Dec 9 21:27:56 2004
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Okay, I will not suggest a preference for one side of the room versus the
other. However, I would like to see some jpegs of this space.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:20 PM
Subject: [Leica] wet trays.. digital printer. :-) A real world look!


> My goodness what a day of digi, vs film vs M vs whatever!  :-)
>
> When one is so busy and they don't read LUG e-mail every hour or so, and
> open it at the end of a day of having a great time making some super B&W
> prints, it appears on the LUG to have been an extremely enlightening day
> about the state of photography before us.
>
> Now before I go on, let me explain the day just finished.
>
> In our darkroom office arrangement we have a PC whiz bang zillions of
space
> and whatever else makes it fire along like a jet going mach here to moon
and
> back in seconds. I don't know what it is, it just does it. ;-) Heck I
don't
> even know the kind of computer it is... it just works fast. ;-)
>
> So there's the computer, an EPSON 2200 printer, Polaroid Sprint scanner, a
> zip drive, haven't used it in what seems years, but it's all lit up ready
to
> go if called upon. :-)
>
> Let's see what else? A flatbed scanner ready to go at a moments notice for
> prints and other notable things from photographs to text.
>
> However, over in the other corner/side is a large sized sink ..." let's
say
> darkroom sink capable of holding 4 16X20 trays and an archival print
> washer." Below that, a print dryer and storage area for wet tray
chemicals.
> On the opposite side of the room, dry side ............   is the suspense
> getting you yet? ;-)...........
>
> A large table with a Leica whatever enlarger, paper storage, negative and
> contact yearly filing books ready for selection and all those things
> required in filing negs and contacts.
>
> So I'm sure by now you're kind of getting the layout and idea of where we
do
> both our digital printing and wet tray printing ..... surprise.... all in
> the same large room! :-)  I know some will say you can't do that!
dampness,
> humidity and all that. And do you know what the answer to that is?   .....
> screw you, we've done it this way for a very long time and everything
works!
> :-)  Which leads to the wonderful revelation of...... ready? ;-)
>
> For the first time today in about 7 months we were, get ready.... wait for
> it........... printing both at exactly the same time.... fine art wet tray
> and digital all in the same room at exactly the same moment!! Damn, it was
> wonderful.:-)  16X20 wet tray prints on one side and digital Epson 2200
> 13X19 humming away on the other.  And what idiot would ever say ...
Digital
> and wet tray wont and can't work together? :-)
>
> Better still? The prints we produced are beautiful! So up yours and
everyone
> else's who says they can't live and work together! Are they the same? Hell
> no, but who cares, both are beautiful and both work and anyone looking at
> them so far are damn near getting wet pants with how neat they look.:-)
>
> So get real people, both are here, both can and do work together, and yes
> they damn well look beautiful side by each, when you are not making some
> comparison to "which is better!" Forget it, there's a whole new world out
> there.
>
> We had a great day printing and when I finally looked at the LUG with all
> the asinine BS about digital and other nonsense babbling on about almost
> every aspect of what's good, what isn't, wont work, I'll never do it,
> digital, never digital, film etc etc. quite frankly it looks like it's the
> biggest pile of ... (sorry ladies,) bull shit nonsense I've ever seen!
>
> Get a life people, wet tray and film are still here, digital is here and
> without question the wave of the future and you as an individual have a
> choice.... run with it and have fun if you feel like it.......... or
> continue as you are having an equal level of fun shooting on a film
camera.
> But stop the bull shit about which is better or bigger!
>
> But for heaven sake lads get with it... both are here! Enjoy whichever
makes
> your heart feel good and run with it... but don't be snapping and snarling
> at each other over a technological process that's advancing faster than
you
> can breath and absolutely no one on this list has any control over. Other
> than, buying into the new way or not!
>
> If you choose to join digital, have fun! And if you chose not to, still
have
> fun. Is there a problem with either?
>
> But for crying out loud get a life and do what you feel best for you and
> don't be shooting the other guy down because he or she makes a different
> choice.... absolutely no one wins when we bite at each other like
salivating
> dogs!
>
> Have a nice evening or day depending when you open this. :-)
>
> ted
>
>
>
>
>
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