Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/01/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think that it looks better, Slobodan, because "grain" is more acceptable in bw - and because the noise isn't seen as color speckles. One way to reduce noise in low light - to answer Adam's question - is to routinely OVER expose by about 1/3 ev in order to make sure that you don't UNDER expose. I know this runs counter to all the digital advice - expose digital like slide film, exposing for the highlights. At 1/3 ev over you're unlikely to really blow out the highlights, and you're less likely to underexpose. And underexposure causes a huge increase in noise. Ironically, however I am absolutely convinced that there is more detail in the shadows in digital exposed in low light than there is film. I have seen this time and time again. B. D. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Slobodan Dimitrov Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:38 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] 20D B&W I did notice that on color. But just yesterday I tried it on a BW image with much better results. S. Dimitrov On Jan 21, 2005, at 10:43 AM, B. D. Colen wrote: > True...But the shadow/highlights feature, as fabulous as it is at > salvaging disasters, has drawbacks - one being that it tends to > increase noise in dark areas opened up. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf > Of Slobodan Dimitrov > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:29 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] 20D B&W > > > It could be 'expanded' by a shadow/highlight adjustment in Photoshop > CS. > S. Dimitrov > > > On Jan 21, 2005, at 9:09 AM, B. D. Colen wrote: > >> Nice shot, but I think this may be an area where the Oly E-1 does it >> better - The blacks are black and the whites are whites, but there >> doesn't appear to be much tonal range in terms of grays. I'd try >> shooting a similar scene in color and converting to see how it >> compares. >> >> B. D. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >> Of Neal Friedenthal >> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:00 AM >> To: leica users group >> Subject: [Leica] 20D B&W >> >> >> This was my first attempt using the B&W function of the Eos 20D, ISO >> set at 800, sorry used the 18-55 ef-s lens for this one. >> >> http://www.photoneal.com/photos/photos_05/tn/BWowen.jpg.html >> >> Neal F >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > Slobodan Dimitrov > Photography > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > Slobodan Dimitrov Photography _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information