Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/04/07

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Subject: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Thu Apr 7 00:10:26 2005
References: <001a01c53af8$0fa5ed40$5540e344@newukolbqveo9i>

To me it is highly logical that a company that wants to produce the best 
came out with a better mechanical camera.
Good enough isn,t their "leit motiv ".
simon jessurun

> Yikes, I hit a raw nerve. I was just complimenting the quality of a
> camera as being what I think is the best ever made. I didn't mean to
> denigrate all earlier cameras or say that it took better pictures than
> any other.
>
> Am I on the RUG? ;-)
>
> Jeffery Smith
> New Orleans, LA
> http://www.400tx.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of B. D.
> Colen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:44 PM
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>
> That's fine, and may well be true. But it hardly turns all Leicas before
> it to chopped chicken liver. Would HCB have done better work with an MP?
> Would Mary Ellen Mark do better work with an MP? Would Ted Grant do
> better work with an MP? Would Jeffery Smith? Of course not. There is
> always something "far more solid," and far more expensive out there. But
> that doesn't make it better in real world terms. If the M6 was built
> like a Bessa, then buying an MP would make a great deal of sense. But
> given that an M6 will outlive any of the current owner's of M6s, the MP
> is reduced, or elevated, to neck jewelry status - an expensive toy for
> rich aficionados who believe that only if they possess the cr?me de la
> cr?me can they hold their heads up. It is, in other words, a waste of
> money. If someone's got the money, and wants to waste it, more power to
> them. But deifying the MP the way some do strikes me as quite silly.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Jeffery Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:38 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>
>
> After having handled the MP, it is hard to handle anything else. It
> feels
> like it was carved from a billet of steel. People compare it to the
> build
> quality of the M3, but it seems far more "solid" and smoother to me. I
> cannot imagine an RF being made any better than the new MP.
>
> Jeffery
>
>
> At 03:16 PM 4/6/2005, you wrote:
>>Hi Bob,
>>
>>I'm agree if somebody is looking for a M6 or M6TTL, but IMO once you
>>have tried a MP the VF is really much more better than the M6 Saludos
>>desde Barcelona Luis
>>-----Mensaje original-----
>>De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org]En nombre
> de
>>B. D. Colen
>>Enviado el: miercoles, 06 de abril de 2005 0:17
>>Para: 'Leica Users Group'
>>Asunto: RE: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>>
>>What ever you say, Gene, but here are the prices of the last  M6s and
>>M6TTL to sell on Ebay - $1380 for a .85 TTL
>>$1035 for M6 .72
>>$1250 M6 in box
>>$1499 WITH WINDER M
>>$1175 for Chrome M6 .72
>>$1211 for a TTL
>>$985 for a chrome M6 with one ding
>>$1154 for .85 TTL
>>And on March 31 an auction ended with only $1125 being bid for a mint
>>.85 TTL that failed to meet the reserve.
>>
>>The prices have dropped through the floor. Now's the time, before Leica
>
>>goes belly up, to buy an M6. :-)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>
>>grduprey@aol.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:55 PM
>>To: lug@leica-users.org
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>>
>>
>>Not from what I have seen, he is just about right.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: B. D. Colen <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>>To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
>>Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400
>>Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>>
>>
>>Boy, Feli - you haven't priced M6s recently - you're as much as $250
>>high....;-)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>
>>Feli
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:19 AM
>>To: Leica Users Group
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>>
>>
>>Used with meter:
>>M6 or M6TTL     $1300-1500
>>MP (demo)   $2300
>>
>>Used no meter:
>>M4 $1000-1500 (add $250 for a CLA)
>>M2 $  800-1400 (add $250 for a CLA)
>>
>>New:
>>MP (black)
>>
>>If I could only have one lens it would be a 35.
>>
>>
>>feli
>>
>>
>>On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Michael J Herring wrote:
>> > OK, Gents. What would you consider a fair price and which body would
>
>> > you purchase yourselves? Thanks for the responses,
>> > Mike
>>________________________________________________________
>>feli2@earthlink.net             2 + 2 = 4
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