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Subject: [Leica] For B.D.
From: masonster at gmail.com (David Mason)
Date: Sun Apr 10 14:36:28 2005
References: <4dccee3d050410114323c0bc39@mail.gmail.com> <000901c53e11$e9285d70$6401a8c0@dorysrusp4>

Did you "try the sensor" though? I mean did you look at the images and
just laugh at that pitiful sensor size? Somehow I doubt it. Those
other points are all good points but have nothing to do with what you
originally said.

On Apr 10, 2005 5:11 PM, Don Dory <dorysrus@mindspring.com> wrote:
> David,
> Actually, I have tried to like the E-1.  It just doesn't work for me.
> :() I like the size, the lenses, but operationally and viewfinder wise
> it just doesn't float my boat.  Of course, the only DSLR's that do are
> the D2X and the 1DsMkII viewfinder wise.
> 
> Don
> dorysrus@mindspring.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of David Mason
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:44 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] For B.D.
> 
> I'm just curious - have you actually tried that "lemon of a sensor
> size" yourself?
> 
> On Apr 10, 2005 1:38 PM, Don Dory <dorysrus@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Feli,
> > Olympus is trying to turn the lemon of a sensor size into lemonade by
> > creating fast glass so that 800ISO at F2 is the same as 1600 as F2.8.
> > With the emphasis on limited DOF in the fashion world I give them a
> fair
> > chance of pulling it off.  Naw, the soccer mom shooting soccer or
> > football will not be able to keep enough in focus at F2, and there are
> > some really good lenses from independent manufacturers that are 2.8,
> > quite good, quite cheap, and in the other guys mounts.
> >
> > Again, I think Olympus is in a niche market with the 4/3 system.  A
> very
> > good system that only a few people will appreciate. :(
> >
> > Don
> > dorysrus@mindspring.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> > Of Feli
> > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:40 AM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] For B.D.
> >
> > On Apr 10, 2005, at 5:07 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:
> >
> > > Boy, there's a shocker!:-) There's only one problem with all of it,
> > and
> > > I say this as an Olympus whore -
> > Shocking, isn't it? ;-)
> >
> > >  thus far, the smaller sensor does seem
> > > to translate into more noise at higher isos. It may well be that
> this
> > > can be overcome, but there seems little question that at this point,
> > > the
> > > Canon DSLR's provide the lowest noise levels.
> >
> > And that right there is my problem with the 4/3 system. I simply don't
> > think
> > they will be able to get the noise levels down, given the size of the
> > chip,
> > especially above 800asa. Both Nikon and Canon are struggling to keep
> > things clean with the slightly bigger APS size. It a shame because it
> > looks
> > like a very nice system They  recently announced a 14-35mm (35mm
> > equiv: 28-70mm) f2.0 and 35-100mm (35mm equiv: 70-200mm) f2.0.
> > No one else is making fast glass like that.
> >
> > feli
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Replies: Reply from dorysrus at mindspring.com (Don Dory) ([Leica] For B.D.)
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In reply to: Message from masonster at gmail.com (David Mason) ([Leica] For B.D.)
Message from dorysrus at mindspring.com (Don Dory) ([Leica] For B.D.)