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Subject: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica
From: pwerner at bluewin.ch (Peter Werner)
Date: Tue Apr 12 15:12:56 2005

Douglas,

I just posted a photo taken with the Kiron on

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Bp8S

mfg
Peter


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-
> bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Peter Werner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 23:59
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica
>
> Douglas,
>
> You can see a few pictures taken with various macro lenses on
>
> http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00B6tQ
>
> BTW, the Telyt 4/200 is an excellent macro lens as well (on a
bellows).
>
> mfg
> Peter
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-
> > bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Douglas
Sharp
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 23:00
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica
> >
> > Sehr interessant Peter,
> > I knew about the Yashica medical macro with a built-in ring flash,
> which
> > is
> > supposed to be quite fantastic but I'd never heard of the Kiron.Also
> > interesting
> > to hear, from quite a few people already, that the 4/100 Macro-Elmar
> is
> > not
> > quite one of the best Leica lenses.
> > It looks, so far, as if the Yashica 55mm may be quite a "Geheimtipp"
> in
> > the
> > field of macro.
> > Could you post a shot (or mail me a jpeg) of a coin, or something
else
> > commonplace, taken close in with the 60mm Macro Elmarit on the 20D?
> > I'd like to know how the Yashica compares with a lens of a similar
> focal
> > length.
> > mfg
> > Douglas
> >
> > Peter Werner wrote:
> > > IMHO The Macro-Elmar 4/100mm is one of the poorest Leica lenses. I
> get
> > > much better results with the 2.8/60 Macro Elmarit (always on a
Canon
> > > 20D).
> > >
> > > The best macro lens I have used is the 2.8/105 Macro Kiron. It was
> made
> > > in Nikon AI mount specially for dental macro photo and IMO beats
> both
> > > the 60mm Macro Elmarit and the 4/100 Elmar. I have never used the
> 100mm
> > > Apo Elmarit, though; it is supposed to be much better
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: lug-bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-
> > >>bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Douglas
> Sharp
> > >>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 19:52
> > >>To: Leica Users Group
> > >>Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica
> > >>
> > >>Grüezi Didier,
> > >>I've already come around to thinking of testing the Elmar on a
Leica
> > >>body with fine grain film, I still can't really believe that the
> > >>difference can be so great. With luck I should have some slides
> ready
> > >>sometime next week.
> > >>cheers
> > >>Douglas
> > >>
> > >>Didier Ludwig wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Douglas
> > >>>I think Leica glass is not always and everywhere that superior
like
> > >
> > > many
> > >
> > >>>might believe, but THIS difference's definitely too big. Nothing
> > >
> > > against
> > >
> > >>>Yashica - but I tend to believe that there's something wrong with
> > >
> > > your
> > >
> > >>>Elmar - or a problem with the combination of a macro-lens and R
> > >
> > > adapter
> > >
> > >>>on a Canon mount. But I'm not experienced with all three aspects
at
> > >
> > > all.
> > >
> > >>>Didier
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>I didn't believe it either at first - I've had so many indirect
> > >>>>comparisons while shooting flowers over the last few days that I
> > >
> > > can no
> > >
> > >>>>longer deny that the Yashica is better by far. I'm sure I can't
> > >
> > > have
> > >
> > >>been
> > >>
> > >>>>focussing the Leica short that often, my eyes are bad - but not
> > >
> > > that
> > >
> > >>bad.
> > >>
> > >>>>Douglas
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>There's indeed a surprising difference in favor of the Yashica.
> It
> > >>>>>looks to me like the Elmar shot is focused too short? Otherwise
I
> > >>>>>can't imagine such a sharpness difference (I compared the
little
> > >>>>>scratch between "S" and "2").
> > >>>>>Didier
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/Leicaf8
> > >>>>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/CY_f8
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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