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Subject: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica
From: pwerner at bluewin.ch (Peter Werner)
Date: Tue Apr 12 14:58:40 2005

Douglas,

You can see a few pictures taken with various macro lenses on

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00B6tQ

BTW, the Telyt 4/200 is an excellent macro lens as well (on a bellows).

mfg
Peter



> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-
> bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Sharp
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 23:00
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica
>
> Sehr interessant Peter,
> I knew about the Yashica medical macro with a built-in ring flash,
which
> is
> supposed to be quite fantastic but I'd never heard of the Kiron.Also
> interesting
> to hear, from quite a few people already, that the 4/100 Macro-Elmar
is
> not
> quite one of the best Leica lenses.
> It looks, so far, as if the Yashica 55mm may be quite a "Geheimtipp"
in
> the
> field of macro.
> Could you post a shot (or mail me a jpeg) of a coin, or something else
> commonplace, taken close in with the 60mm Macro Elmarit on the 20D?
> I'd like to know how the Yashica compares with a lens of a similar
focal
> length.
> mfg
> Douglas
>
> Peter Werner wrote:
> > IMHO The Macro-Elmar 4/100mm is one of the poorest Leica lenses. I
get
> > much better results with the 2.8/60 Macro Elmarit (always on a Canon
> > 20D).
> >
> > The best macro lens I have used is the 2.8/105 Macro Kiron. It was
made
> > in Nikon AI mount specially for dental macro photo and IMO beats
both
> > the 60mm Macro Elmarit and the 4/100 Elmar. I have never used the
100mm
> > Apo Elmarit, though; it is supposed to be much better
> >
> > Cheers
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: lug-bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-
> >>bounces+pwerner=bluewin.ch@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Douglas
Sharp
> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 19:52
> >>To: Leica Users Group
> >>Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica
> >>
> >>Grüezi Didier,
> >>I've already come around to thinking of testing the Elmar on a Leica
> >>body with fine grain film, I still can't really believe that the
> >>difference can be so great. With luck I should have some slides
ready
> >>sometime next week.
> >>cheers
> >>Douglas
> >>
> >>Didier Ludwig wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Douglas
> >>>I think Leica glass is not always and everywhere that superior like
> >
> > many
> >
> >>>might believe, but THIS difference's definitely too big. Nothing
> >
> > against
> >
> >>>Yashica - but I tend to believe that there's something wrong with
> >
> > your
> >
> >>>Elmar - or a problem with the combination of a macro-lens and R
> >
> > adapter
> >
> >>>on a Canon mount. But I'm not experienced with all three aspects at
> >
> > all.
> >
> >>>Didier
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I didn't believe it either at first - I've had so many indirect
> >>>>comparisons while shooting flowers over the last few days that I
> >
> > can no
> >
> >>>>longer deny that the Yashica is better by far. I'm sure I can't
> >
> > have
> >
> >>been
> >>
> >>>>focussing the Leica short that often, my eyes are bad - but not
> >
> > that
> >
> >>bad.
> >>
> >>>>Douglas
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>There's indeed a surprising difference in favor of the Yashica.
It
> >>>>>looks to me like the Elmar shot is focused too short? Otherwise I
> >>>>>can't imagine such a sharpness difference (I compared the little
> >>>>>scratch between "S" and "2").
> >>>>>Didier
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/Leicaf8
> >>>>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/CY_f8
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Replies: Reply from rangefinder at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica)
Reply from douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp) ([Leica] Was Macro Comparison - is Macro Kilar)
Reply from pwerner at bluewin.ch (Peter Werner) ([Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica)
Reply from tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant) ([Leica] Macro Comparison Leica v. Yashica)
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