Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/07/21

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: [Leica] Kodak retreats
From: sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner)
Date: Thu Jul 21 13:54:38 2005
References: <BF057077.2BA9%bdcolen@comcast.net>

B.D., it is not just buying Kodak film, if that is what the photographer 
really wants and will miss; it's also talking and acting as though Kodak 
film is already gone. Those public attitudes by influential photographers, 
particularly those amongst us who are recognized professionals - which of 
course I am certainly not - can indeed have a deleterious effect on sales.

And if you have looked at the Company's website, you will have seen that 
Kodak has clearly tailored film to the professional market. Also clear is 
that they want to sell these products to serious non-professionals, thus 
their willingness to sewnd a rep to the LHSA meeting last year. But their 
consumer market has a virtually total digital focus.

Seth

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Kodak retreats


> Excellent suggestion, Seth - The x,000 members of the LUG will definitely
> make the difference in keeping Kodak afloat and in the film business. ;-)
>
>
> On 7/21/05 3:27 PM, "Seth Rosner" <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Doug, I believe that Kodak had announced in January that it was trimming
>> 15,000 jobs world-wide; this announcement added 10,00 job cuts to total
>> 25,000.
>>
>> Last year I invited Kodak to send a representative to speak at the LHSA
>> annual meeting on Kodak, digital and film. She did and assure us that 
>> Kodak
>> was not abandoning silver halide but was rationalizing its production to
>> eliminate film that was insufficiently used to be commercially viable for
>> them. They may have changed policy since then but she was asked 
>> specifically
>> if Kodak was going to eliminate TRI-X or Kodachrome; the answer as to 
>> TRI-X
>> was no, as to K-chrome was they had already eliminated K25 but were
>> continuing to produce and suppot 64 and 200.
>>
>> I suggest all doom-and-gloomers go to the Kodak website and click on
>> "Pro-photographer/Lab" to see the film emulsions they produce, including
>> some new emulsions. K64 and K200, six different Professional Ektachrome
>> emulsions, two brand-new Ultra Professional color print films with high
>> color saturation.
>>
>> In b+w Kodak continues Tri-X, three T-MAX emulsions: 100, 400 and 3200,
>> Plus-X 125, High-speed infra-red and BW400 CN, the b+w chromogenic film.
>>
>> All are professional films, therefore fresh and dated and they have on 
>> the
>> website a service where you input your location and they will give you 
>> the
>> location of a dealer for the product you want.
>>
>> Instead of lamenting the demise of Kodak film, I would think we who use 
>> and
>> love their films would make an effort to use them so that rumors of 
>> Kodak's
>> end of film production does not become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>>
>> C'mon, guys and gals, get back on the yellow box. I still have hundreds 
>> of
>> Kodachrome slides that are 55 years old whose color is still as vivid as
>> when the yellow boxes  came back to me in 1950 et seq.
>>
>> Seth
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dnygr" <dnygr@cshore.com>
>> To: <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:33 PM
>> Subject: [Leica] Kodak retreats
>>
>>
>>> I read this morning in The New York Times that Kodak is going to trim
>>> 10,000 jobs. Deutsche Welle reports, however, that Kodak is going to 
>>> shed
>>> 25,000 jobs.
>>>
>>> Whether this means for the future of film, I don't know, but I do know
>>> that it means I will quickly start to figure out what products to buy as
>>> replacements for the Kodak items I use. They have lost my confidence.
>>>
>>> I would have thought that Kodak would keep some presence in the film 
>>> world
>>> so that it could outlast the lesser capitalized companies, but it looks
>>> like Kodak's chief has ordered a general retreat.
>>>
>>> Doug Nygren
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> 



In reply to: Message from bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] Kodak retreats)