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Subject: [Leica] kids... THIS IS AN OPEN APOLOGY! !
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sun Aug 7 16:57:20 2005
References: <F327C1BC-8880-4A48-9DEA-0DF724568B8F@cox.net> <cq4jd154pkun4q5dme60f8uufmc1l54pgo@4ax.com> <001b01c58a63$56a2ea80$1ae76c18@ted> <004401c59ba1$40a59300$1ae76c18@ted>

thanks for your comments Eric, and thanks Ted for your comments and  
for your clearing the air...

I listen carefully to each and all,  to learn from each person's  
thoughts.  There is always something more to learn...even from those  
who see things differently.

Especially easy for me to accomplish, as in medicine we often have  
multiple  docs and twice as many different opinions...   :-)

I learn from each of you...that's why I continue to be here.

Steve




On Aug 7, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Ted Grant wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago Eric offered his opinion on a Steve Barbour  
> photo... You may recall Steve's granddaughter emerging from the  
> swimming pool.
>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] kids... !
>
> Eric's opinion:
>
>> The only thing I'd change would be to reflect some light into her  
>> face to
>> lessen the shadows under her eyes and separate her pupils a bit  
>> from her
>> irises.<<<
>>
>
> Well the sabre tooth tiger came back with,  :-(
>
>> Eric,
>> For crying out loud get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Sorry I have to de-lurk on this one and I'll pay for it both here  
>> at home and on the screen, although on the screen the chances are  
>> limited I'll see any Reponses!<<<
>>
>
> No excuses on my part. It was a bad mouth attack on an unsuspecting  
> photographer simply because of his opinion. And not satisfied with  
> the first outburst I went on...
>
>
>> But damn it, this is the stupidest comment on a picture of a child  
>> that happens in split-seconds and your telling the photographer he  
>> should ...
>>
>
> Eric's comment, A simple opinion offered below:
>
>
>> reflect some light into her face to lessen the shadows under her  
>> eyes and separate her pupils a bit from her irises.<<<
>>
>
> Unfortunately I contunue the attack:
>
>> I'm sorry that's bull shit when it's an instant of happening and  
>> the great reaction of a fine photographer who grabs the instant  
>> moment. Hell if you were shooting under identical conditions and  
>> you'd shot this, you'd have been only too glad you had a  
>> photograph as good as this.<<<
>>
>
> And I continued:
>
>> OK if you are messing around on a "studio shoot" and have exactly  
>> every bit of control I might agree with your comments. But let's  
>> get real and realize this is a split second life moment and a grab  
>> shot!
>>
>> But surely under the circumstance of a quick instant moment and  
>> you're suggesting correcting light?  Get real, life isn't like  
>> that in uncontrolled life moments!
>>
>> Your comment is bloody nonsense under the circumstances, although  
>> well meaning!!<<<<<<<<<
>>
>
> Well ladies and gentlemen you can see I was absolutely mouth out of  
> control on a LUG family member simply for his opinion. Quite  
> frankly I still have the post and have read it several times  
> feeling bloody embarassed and absolutely foolish each time I did. I  
> looked to offer this apology since I first posted it realizing how  
> bad I sounded in offending a screen friend..
>
> Today was the day,
> So with this Eric I offer my humblest of apologies for such a  
> callous and loud mouthed out burst. And to the LUG family for such  
> bad manners.
>
> ted
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] kids... THIS IS AN OPEN APOLOGY! !)
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Message from tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant) ([Leica] kids... !)
Message from tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant) ([Leica] kids... THIS IS AN OPEN APOLOGY! !)