Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/10/31

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Subject: [Leica] First Crush; also: BALUG; Digital M futures
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Mon Oct 31 23:48:04 2005
References: <20051101070105.54741.qmail@web31004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Looks more like a totally new branding project, play up the competence, 
tradition and perceived quality of Leica.
Re-awaken the awareness that Leica is still here and has something to say.
This would be something really new for Leica as it demands that customer 
expectations be taken into account.
Douglas

pmcc wrote:

>My pleasure Ken.  FWIW, a theme of
>Stefan's remarks was to position the 
>Digital M as an M series camera, with
>M camera look and feel. An overarching 
>design goal appears to be to preserve 
>lens compatibility between Digital M 
>and Analogue M -- i.e., they are all 
>M cameras, with strong family resemblance.
>Works for me.
>
>Peter.
>SF, CA
>
>P.S. Thanks for the ride to Marines
>Memorial!  We stayed out late with
>Henning, Mark, Greg et al., and used
>more bar glass than optical glass.
>
>
>--- Ken Iisaka <ken@iisaka.org> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Thanks very much for the report.  I had been just
>>about to put myself on a
>>waiting list for a Nikon D200 10.2MP camera, but the
>>details here puts me to
>>pause.  Perhaps a new scanner is a wiser investment.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: lug-bounces+ken=iisaka.org@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+ken=iisaka.org@leica-users.org]
>>On Behalf Of pmcc
>>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:50 AM
>>To: Leica Users Group
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] First Crush; also: BALUG;
>>Digital M futures
>>
>>Among them was yours truly.  A boisterously good 
>>time was had by all, thanks in no small part 
>>to the efforts of Greg Lorenzo who deftly 
>>orchestrated the event with courtesy and bonhomie.
>>
>>The event also marked the reunion of the Bay Area
>>LUG, with ur-members Mark Cohen, John Gong, George
>>Hartzell, Ken Iisaka, Byron Ratkitzis, Tom Schofield
>>and your correspondent in attendance, joined by new
>>BALUG inductee Wayne Serrano.  Our group photo was
>>taken by Slobodan Dimitrov, who joins John Sexton on
>>the elite roster of photographers who have rendered 
>>the official BALUG portrait.
>> 
>>    
>>
>>>I let Seth talk me into attending the LHSA lunch
>>>today, which as I think about it means I'm going
>>>      
>>>
>>to
>>    
>>
>>>be joining the LHSA. I guess they tolerate saloon
>>>keepers in their membership...
>>>      
>>>
>>The Screwmount Summit was a historic moment in the
>>annals of LUG/LHSA diplomacy. Brian and Seth have 
>>been jointly nominated for the Barnack Peace Prize. 
>>
>>No longer will the average age of LHSA members be 
>>the subject of derision on the LUG, and no longer 
>>will LUGgers be summarily dismissed as a gang of
>>contentious geeks off their meds by LHSA members 
>>of long sitting.
>>
>>A few interesting statements about the Digital M
>>surfaced at the LHSA meeting, in response to
>>questions from the floor addressed to Stefan Daniel
>>of Leica Camera AG.  In no particular order, my best
>>recollection is as follows:
>>
>>- Digital M will preserve continuity of look 
>>  and form factor with existing M cameras
>>     
>>- optical rangefinder
>>
>>- modified R9 type shutter (auf Wiedersehen to
>>  horizontal travel cloth shutter)
>>
>>- 1.33 crop factor, not full frame (do the math
>>  to calculate effective focal lengths for 35mm
>>  lenses)
>>
>>- 10.5 megapixel sensor
>>
>>- 2.5" playback only screen
>>
>>- 1/8000 top shutter speed
>>
>>- lithium ion battery
>>
>>- SD memory card
>>
>>- self-timer
>>
>>- auto-shutter cocking
>>
>>- USB 2.0 connector, no video out
>>
>>- supports RAW
>>
>>- black and white mode in JPEG
>>
>>- 5 or 6 sets of framelines (TBA)
>>
>>- VF magnification TBA
>>
>>- shutter lag goal under 20 milliseconds
>>
>>- upgradable digital componentry under consideration
>>  but not promised
>>
>>- digital sensor partner is German (not Imacon)
>>
>>- camera to be made in Germany
>>
>>- price goal under US$5K
>>
>>- targeted to ship at Photokina 2006
>>
>>- expect compatibility with 95-97% of existing
>>  Leica lenses
>>
>>- expect new Leica M lenses in the ultra-wide
>>  range, which are also to be compatible with 
>>  existing M cameras (philosophy is against
>>  digital-only lenses)
>>
>>- compatibility with wide-angle M lenses to be
>>  achieved as follows: incorporate new micro-lens
>>  offset technology in front of sensor; micro-lens
>>  design to be ultra-flat; replacement of pre-sensor
>>  anti-aliasing filter with software solution;
>>  infra-red cut-off filter to be incorporated into 
>>  sensor cover glass, to be made of scratch-
>>  resistant material; separate cover glass thus
>>  eliminated
>>
>>Can't guarantee the total accuracy of the above,
>>but it's to the best of my understanding of what
>>was said.
>>
>>PMCC.
>>SF, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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