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Subject: [Leica] still more on Leica "rumor" and NYT
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Wed Jan 4 10:38:08 2006

No - We can say that that's what was being initially put out, and that
newspapers work on what are called "deadlines." Turns out that word got out
of the command center that there were 12 survivors when all that the
rescuers were reporting was that they were checking the vital signs on 12
bodies.

Basic reporting on an unfolding news event means getting "right" what appear
to be the facts at the time you have to write the story. Daily journalism
isn't referred to as the "first rough draft of history" for nothing.


On 1/4/06 1:02 PM, "mcyclwritr@comcast.net" <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> wrote:

> Not to klck the Gray Lady while she's down, but I heard that today's NYT 
> front
> page trumpeted 12 survivors from the West Virginia mine tragedy. Can you 
> say
> "scoop hungry?" "Unsubstantiated?" "Reckless?"
> 
> Who was the reporter on the scene who phoned in the report? Who was the 
> front
> page editor who didn't ask, "Are the survivors out of the mine? Have you 
> seen
> them? Have you talked with any of them? Have you spoken directly with 
> rescuers
> or mine officials to confirm they're alive? Do you have names? Do we have
> pix?" 
> 
> Basic reporting. Cool your jets and get it right. Better to be correct in 
> the
> late edition than early and wrong. Of course, the NYT wasn't alone in its
> premature emotulation. Other eastern papers jumped onboard and got it 
> wrong,
> too. Basic reporting, boys and girls. Basic.
> 
> -Chris Lawson  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net>
>> I love this...Both of those papers publish 365 days a year, and each day
>> provide how many 10s of thousands of words. The Post had a scandal in, 
>> what,
>> 1980? And the Times has been snookered a couple times, and we're talking
>> about their "style of reportage?" Get real here - their style of reportage
>> is to provide astoundingly good news coverage day in and day out - and 
>> once
>> and a while psychos - in the case of the Post and Ms. Cooke and the Times
>> and Jason Blair - or a self-aggrandizing careerist with a political 
>> agenda,
>> make it through the screening process. Big whoop. ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/4/06 11:34 AM, "Allen Graves" <p_intern@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> And don't forget the Washington Post.
>>> 
>>> Allen
>>> 
>>> jon.stanton@comcast.net wrote:
>>>> Hasn't this been the NYT style of repotage for years??
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>> From: Thinkofcole@aol.com
>>>> 
>>>>> Here's what may have happened:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec. 29, a photography site in Spain called Caborian.com ran what it
>>>>> called an April's Fools item in Spanish {see its dec. 29 posting}  
>>>>> saying
>>>>> that 
>>>>> in 
>>>>> Spain the equivalent of April fools is celebrated on Dec. 28 and that  
>>>>> "on
>>>>> Caborian we wanted to maintain the tradition, publishing false news of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> merger of Canon and Leica." Here is the Dec. 29 posting...[it does not
>>>>> mention  
>>>>> Asahi Shimbun].
>>>>>      
>>>> 
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