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Subject: [Leica] Painting cameras, the ALPA black crackle finish
From: bruce at ralgo.nl (bruce)
Date: Tue Jan 24 14:37:06 2006
References: <BAY103-F321A7650DB1B4C1852EFA9C7130@phx.gbl> <003c01c62118$cf1ace50$0202a8c0@jacklcd> <DE0A6BD1-4AD2-44D7-853B-770D996BF3B4@pandora.be>

The return of sanity.

B.

On 24-jan-2006, at 20:10, Philippe Orlent wrote:

> http://www.hammerite.com/uk/products/ 
> ps_dtr_metal_paint_colours.html#hammered
>
> is this what you mean?
>
>
> Op 24-jan-06, om 20:03 heeft Jack C. Herron het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Vick,
>>    Wrinkle finishes, as opposed to crackle, which are something  
>> different, are created by spraying a special paint, waiting a  
>> specified time, say three minutes, then laying down another coat.   
>> The wrinkling effect is caused by the solvents in the second coat  
>> softening and expanding the partially dried first coat.  This is  
>> really just a rigidly controlled example of the failure one  
>> experiences when you do not allow adequated drying time between  
>> coats of normal paint and get a catastrophic wrinkle.
>>    On the plus side, the paint, or I should say, a paint can be  
>> obtained in aerosol cans from most full service paint stores or  
>> art stores, usually in grey or black.  For the effect the process  
>> is reasonably uncritical.  Making a reasonable attempt to follow  
>> the manfactorers directions will result in a wrinkle of some sort,  
>> acceptable for normal uses, ie, cases on electronic instruments.
>>    On the negative side, obtaining a specific pattern of wrinkling  
>> is critically dependant on many variables, all of which must be  
>> held to close tolerances which are difficult in the home shop.   
>> The effect is dependant, among other things, on the thickness of  
>> the first coat, the drying time between coats, the temperature and  
>> relative humidity, the thickness of the second coat, the  
>> temperature of the final drying (the wrinkling can be hastened by  
>> heating in an oven) and the skill with which an absolutely uniform  
>> series of coats is applied to a 3 dimensional object.  Also it is  
>> likely that the paint that ALPA uses is not the same as that  
>> commercially available.
>>    I have to admit that I think it unlikely that one would succeed  
>> in matching the ALPA coating, but--
>>    Having said that, I would, and would encourage you, to go buy a  
>> couple of cans, practice with some flat surfaces, cut some wood  
>> blocks to approximate camera bodies, practice some more and see  
>> what you get.  You might get what you want, in which case, your  
>> problem will be to do exactly the same thing again.  You might  
>> also find a custom variation which you like better,  your own  
>> unique finish.
>>    In any event, it is only a couple of bucks and should be a lot  
>> of fun.
>>
>> Keep pressing the paint can button, it'll come unstuck!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jack
>> Jack C. Herron
>> 8118 E. 20th St.
>> Tucson, AZ 85710
>> 520 885-6933
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Javier Perez"  
>> <summarex@hotmail.com>
>> To: <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:52 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Painting cameras, the ALPA black crackle finish
>>
>>
>>> I think it has something to do with painting in a hot surface or  
>>> painting over a coat that reacts slightly. Voigtlander is now  
>>> doing a crackle finish on the new bessas I think.
>>> Javier
>>>
>>>> From: <vick.ko@sympatico.ca>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> To: <idcc@kjsl.com>, <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: [Leica] Painting cameras, the ALPA black crackle finish
>>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:33:04 -0500
>>>>
>>>> To those who paint cameras, does anyone know how to create the  
>>>> ALPA black crackle finish?
>>>>
>>>> I would love to have an M3 with that finish.
>>>>
>>>> Can this be done "at home"?
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Vick
>>>>
>>>>
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