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Subject: [Leica] Olympus DSLR
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Mon Mar 20 04:41:08 2006
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Hey! I didn't subscribe to this list to hear endless rants about the 
current world econmic situation and the quality and value of Chinese goods 
versus American! Llistmaster, could you start a CGL and give these people 
some place to take this chatter so that we can get back to discussing 
Leicas?
Thanks
Outraged in Boston
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...... Original Message .......
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:07:33 -0500 Scott McLoughlin <scott@adrenaline.com> 
wrote:
"Oh what a happy tale. Exporting US and EU jobs will remarkably transform
"China into a bastion of civil rights and democracy. Such optimism should
"be saved for fairy tales; it is unwarranted in rational debate. And what
"will such job exporting turn the US and EU into politically? Optimistic 
"about
"that?
"
"Scott
"
"Douglas Sharp wrote:
"
"> Don,
"> let's face it, the number of people forced to remain at a lower level 
"> of education was, not so long ago, pretty unimportant. There was 
"> always the job at the local mill, factory or in agriculture. What we 
"> are facing today is the backlash of the classic denial of an 
"> appropriate education to certain classes, races, ethnic groups and 
"> women for what ever reason a government or a religion felt fit. The 
"> menial worker is now hardly in demand, or this work is carried out by 
"> immigrants, women, imported cheap or illegal labour or "exported" 
"> manufacturing facilities in low wage countries.
"> To take this further, the Chinese have already started making inroads 
"> into classical European industrial sectors, and have already bought 
"> several companies in what was previously the GDR. This development 
"> will continue in the same way as Mittal's (Indian steel magnate) 
"> successful campaign to control and own the iron and steel industry.
"> Technology transfer to China is now a big thing, and also a 
"> prerequiste clause in just about any export or services contract made 
"> with Chinese concerns (this happened to Transrapid Mag-Lev, Siemens, 
"> VW and others).
"> And what was the real revolution in China after Mao?
"> You got it - educating the masses - this went so far that there is now 
"> a campaign in China to get people back into agriculture before the 
"> food supply situation collapses - add to this the Chinese love of 
"> taking financial risks (betting and stockbroking are the biggest games 
"> in  HK) and probably, within the next 10 years, China will be the 
"> leading world economy and the owner of many traditional western 
"> companies.
"> The plan of gradually loosening the totalitarian hold on development 
"> will eventually be followed, when the government sees fit, with the 
"> reinstatement of human rights for all, which if granted before the 
"> economic consolidation of this immense country could easily lead to 
"> civil war. IMO, it's hard but it's the only way they can see, and it 
"> fits in with thousands of years of years of feudal culture and 
"> mentality going back to the Mandarins and further.
"> If your kids are still young, let them learn Chinese - they'll soon 
"> need it..
">
"
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