Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Steve: You may remember Marc's last diatribe against bokeh... the post where he said that it's not quantifiable and therefore not relevant? I will probably go to hell for this. Marc will undoubtedly call down a curse on me which will be appropriate for this 666 day... and biblical in its fury. http://www.rollei-gallery.net/mjs/folder-6626.html Notice the "smooth" bokeh in "Complacent Dove March 2004" ;-) Jim, "Now saying his prayers" Hemenway Steve Barbour wrote: > On Jun 6, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Walt Johnson wrote: > >> Jeffery: >> >> Marc's comments are all BS. How the hell can you know what you're >> shooting by hiding in the background with a long lens. There is >> nothing wrong with getting up close and personal. The most important >> thing is to make sure your subjects feel your respect for them. They >> are not elements of the composition but rather human souls. Some are >> better than others but when treated well they generally respond well. > > > Marc... I'm really interested in your point of view... > > what is the best way to see your photos? Are they posted somewhere on > line? > > > thanks, Steve > > > >> >> Ralph Gibson has been discussed quite a bit and perhaps it might be >> time to return to his work and really see it. Even though he is right >> on top of his subjects (sometimes even closer :-[ ) I don't feel his >> presence but rather see what he sees. You can smell the sweat (or >> sweet fragrances) of you subjects and not be intrusive. You will know >> this when it happens. All else is practice for the real thing. (IMO) >> >> Walt >> >> P.S. press conferences and presidential photo humps have nothing to >> do with honesty. >> >> Marc James Small wrote: >> >>> At 08:57 PM 6/5/06 -0500, you wrote: >>> >>>> Capa never said "If your pictures aren't good enough, you need a 90." >>>> >>>> Jeffery Smith >>>> New Orleans, LA >>>> http://www.400tx.com >>>> >>> >>> Jeffery >>> >>> We have never met in person but, trust me, I love you like a brother >>> and I >>> look forward to the time when we meet in person. >>> >>> A 90mm lens is a wide-standard. A 40cm lens is a normal lens. Stay >>> away >>> from the folks and let them live their lives. >>> >>> The next time some jerk photojournalist shoulders his way into my >>> face to >>> take his pictures, he really will get an elbow in his jaws. You >>> wide-angle >>> folks do not understand how threatening you seem to those of us who are >>> your targets. >>> >>> Capa's comment was cool for the time but was also full of BS -- >>> President >>> Truman, for instance, directed that no one at a Presidential Press >>> Conference use a lens less that 50mm. >>> Me? Now that I am retired, I do not expect to EVER appear again at a >>> public function. But I have done so on frequent occasion over the past >>> quarter of a century, and I have always told the Photo-Toads that I >>> wanted >>> a 12 foot (3m) circle of safety and that I'd clobber them if they came >>> closer than that. They knew that I meant what I said, and I >>> generally had >>> some hefty friends along to emphasize the point. >>> >>> You wide-angle guys are simply sick. Get back to a decent distance, >>> let >>> the subject be okay, and shoot the picture with a 40cm Telyt. >>> >>> What YOU guys wish to do is to jam the camera into the jaws of the >>> victim >>> and get a horrified response. Jam a camera in my face, and you will >>> get a >>> horrified response, which will include the destruction of your camera. >>> >>> Wide Angle Dudes. Stay away. Learn long lenses. Understand that >>> Duncan >>> and Capa were speaking for what scientists call "special >>> circumstances". >>> I detest wide-angle lenses as they defy the very reason for >>> photograhy -- >>> documentig reality. Still, that 4.5/21 CZ Biogon did a hell of a >>> hit at >>> the Bridge at Mull in Ireland back in 2001. >>> >>> Marc >>> >>> msmall@aya.yale.edu Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >