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Subject: [Leica] Dutch tilt - new photos
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Tue Jun 20 13:07:25 2006
References: <4F488248ADCD6C419976DFE43A115091EBAC8D@sv-ex01.jp2hs.campus>

Op 20-jun-06, om 21:00 heeft Arche, Harvey het volgende geschreven:

> B.D. wrote:
> Edit, edit, edit. I'm struck by how good some of your street stuff  
> is John -
> really strong images that either amuse, bemuse, or confuse. But  
> then they
> are surrounded by far too many images that are simply photos of  
> people on
> the street. Any one doing serious street photography is going to  
> have dozens
> and dozens of those throw aways for each gem; the trick is to throw  
> them
> away. :-)
>
> B. D.
>
>
> On 6/20/06 11:17 AM, "John Beeching" <johnbeeching@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Some photos from my recent visit to Amsterdam.
>> http://staff.bath.ac.uk/bssjrb/Photographic/dutch/dutch.htm
>>
>> Mostly 28mm Elmarit, one 35mm Summicron, one 90mm Elmarit.  All Tri-X
>> in Xtol 1+3.
>>
>> Comments and criticisms welcome, as always.
>>
>> Thanks for looking,
>>
>> John
>
> A couple of things. Great pictures, John, but overall not as  
> powerful as your recent 'May' posting, so in a way I'm in agreement  
> with B.D.. Some really terrific stuff scattered in there.
> On the other hand, I tend to view what goes on here as a consensual  
> working space. Yesterday, and earlier this morning, I was thinking  
> a lot about how much crap I had building up in my galleries. I tend  
> to post a lot more junk than I might, in the clear light of reason,  
> actually want to be publically associated with. I think many of us  
> do. And I will continue do so (B.D., have you taken an axe to the  
> 'T-shots' yet? ;^)) because just airing the damn things gives me a  
> degree of perspective, or at least psychological distance, that I  
> wouldn't get letting them sit cluttering up my desktop. I don't  
> even need to get any feedback, its simply knowing the stuff is  
> getting tracked up by other people's eyes.
> Winogrand, and apparently Henry Wessel, let their negs sit for a  
> year before looking at them in order to get that distance. Jeez, I  
> wish I had the time and their organizational ability (not to  
> mention eyes, insight, and artistry).
> Meanwhile I've got a diaperload generating heat in Brian's servers.  
> And that's just wrong (even as imagery). What to do about it? I  
> decided this morning: Binge-Purge. Go about the business of posting  
> and eliciting criticism (next: a day at the dragstrip). But come  
> December, and the winding-down of '06, I'm going to streamline the  
> year's postings down to the, say, 10% of stuff I still think of as  
> 'keepers'.
> Does this mean I'm advocating an indiscrimate, scatter-gun approach  
> to selecting what gets posted? Of course not. In that, the forum is  
> like the marketplace: after a while nobody even looks at a product  
> that sucks. Generally speaking, even if I put up a bunch of images  
> in a given post, there are probably fewer than 8% of the total from  
> the shoot that make that first cut. I'm willing to bet that John  
> shot 10x as many images in Amsterdam as we're seeing.
> So, 'edit, edit, edit'? Yes, of course, but after - not before -  
> taking advantage of the tool that best helps me do it.
> GOYA & Shoot,
> Arche

Here here, Arche. Well put.
I just hope I'll find the time to do what you so excellently suggest.

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