Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Was that before, during or after repressed sexual thoughts about mommy and sis? GREG LORENZO wrote: >Henning knows of what he speaks. > >As Sigmund said 'sometimes a Cigar is just a Cigar'. > >Regards, > >Greg > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Walt Johnson <walt@waltjohnson.com> >Date: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:51 pm >Subject: Re: [Leica] Twin Towers > > > >>Henning >> >>You can logic chop it to death but try to explain it. Both towers >>within >>minutes and from different impacts? Try an unsimplistic analysis >>on us >>just for kicks but lay off the earthquakes and other very >>unrelated >>events. Any time there is a disaster the nut cases float to the >>top and >>scream government cover-up. There is a world of difference between >>a >>successful cover-up and spoon feeding the population their morning >>dose >>of stupid cereal. But given the list of failed cover up just in >>my >>lifetime could we be faulted for mistrusting the official line? >> >>Walt >> >>Henning Wulff wrote: >> >> >> >>>>In a message dated 6/23/06 4:36:53 AM, lug-request@leica- >>>> >>>> >>users.org >> >> >>>>writes: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I was amazed at how fast they both came down. Plane crash or >>>>> >>>>> >>no, there >> >> >>>>> is something not quite kosher about the twin and simultaneous >>>>>collapse. >>>>> >>>>> Walt >>>>> ----------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>The architect in charge of construction admitted on TV that >>>> >>>> >>they >> >> >>>>failed to >>>>encase the center utilities column, in concrete. They used >>>> >>>> >>drywall. >> >> >>>>The plane >>>>shot right through the entire building. There was nothing to >>>> >>>> >>stop it. >> >> >>>>Yep, they >>>>cut corners and there was no municipal or state law to compel >>>> >>>> >>them to >> >> >>>>spend >>>>the money and take the time to do the job right. >>>> >>>>Bob >>>> >>>> >>>As an architect I have to say that is both a silly and >>> >>> >>definitely a >> >> >>>simplistic analysis. >>> >>>The towers were not designed for such an impact, and certainly >>> >>> >>had no >> >> >>>reason to be. >>> >>>You can never design any building to withstand all disasters. >>> >>> >>You can >> >> >>>not design it both because the depth of knowledge does not exist >>> >>> >>nor >> >> >>>does the imagination exist, the technology and construction >>> >>> >>methods do >> >> >>>not exist, and, most importantly, you cannot afford to by orders >>> >>> >>of >> >> >>>magnitude. >>> >>>If a serious earthquake hits the central US (and it will, just >>> >>> >>like it >> >> >>>has in the past) tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands >>> >>> >>of >> >> >>>lives will be lost. If an earthquake of the magnitude of the '64 >>>Alaska quake hit Vancouver (and it will), tens of thousands of >>> >>> >>lives >> >> >>>will be lost. >>> >>>These are disasters we can imagine, and that will happen. We >>> >>> >>don't >> >> >>>know when, but they will. We have the technology to prepare for >>> >>> >>them >> >> >>>and to design for them, but the standards don't force the >>> >>> >>construction >> >> >>>of buildings that will truly resist these disasters, because a) >>> >>> >>we >> >> >>>cannot afford them - again, we are talking of orders of >>> >>> >>magnitude, not >> >> >>>2x or 5x the cost- and b) everything around them, the whole >>>infrastructure, is gone so to have a building withstand them is >>> >>> >>almost >> >> >>>pointless. >>> >>>We make choices, based on our knowledge, technologies, economic >>>abilities and lifespan timelines. These are not irrational >>> >>> >>choices, >> >> >>>but it does mean that every once in a while something bites us. >>> >>> >>We >> >> >>>learn a bit each time, but just as we have to stop searching for >>> >>> >>the >> >> >>>perfect lens, and go out and shoot, we also have to build, live, >>> >>> >>and >> >> >>>get on with life. We definitely have to get over the 'what if' >>>syndrome at some point. >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > >