Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/29

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Leica cassettes
From: lrzeitlin at optonline.net (Lawrence Zeitlin)
Date: Thu Jun 29 14:41:13 2006
References: <200606292017.k5TKGeGo035028@server1.waverley.reid.org>

On Jun 29, 2006, at 4:17 PM, lug-request@leica-users.org wrote:

> At 09:24 PM 6/29/06 +0200, Daniel Ridings wrote:
>> If you have any of these metal, reloadable cassettes lying around, I
>> could use them.
>>
>> I'll be using them, not collecting them, so it's user prices I'm out
>> after. I picked up 10 for 25 pounds off of the auction place.
>>
>> I'd like to have around 40 (two rolls of bulk film).
>>
>> Preferably the kind that work with M's and backwards even with Barnack
>> Leicas. The newer kind have a chrome knob and are about 2mm shorter
>> (which is hard to verify unless you have both kinds, of course).
>>
>> I'm leaving for a few days vacation on Tuesday, so I might not respond
>> promptly after 4 July, but I will get back to you.
>
> I have a number of these which I do not have for sale, as I use them.  
> I
> use them on my M Leicas and on my LTM Leicas.  I do not own a "Barnack
> Leica" so I have no idea of that which your are speaking in that 
> regard.
>
> I even own a bunch of the LTM cassettes with live film in them which I 
> have
> never had processed and which is probably dead by now.  I probably 
> should
> check this out.  The film would have been shot around fifty years back.
>
> Marc
>
> msmall@aya.yale.edu

I presume both Daniel and Marc are referring to the Leica reloadable 
cassettes. These are the brass cassettes in which the film travels 
along a curved channel. Turning the key which locks the camera bottom 
opens the cassette, obviating the possibility of grit scratches on the 
film from the velvet light trap of stamped cassettes. As Daniel notes, 
they come in two sizes. The first is the B cassette intended for the 
LTM cameras. Through a clever design strategy, Leica made the film 
chamber of the M series cameras about two mm. shorter than that of the 
LTM cameras, instantly obsoleting all the B cassettes. Leica then 
introduced the L cassette, 2.2 mm. shorter than the previous model. The 
L cassettes will work in the LTM cameras although they will rattle if 
you shake the cameras hard. Neither cassette will work in the M5 or the 
CL. I have never figured out if the B and L designations mean anything. 
If you really, really want to buy them, they are available on eBay for 
about $20. Older film loaders had a knob which would open and close the 
cassettes. Newer loaders don't.

Leica admits that standard commercial film cassettes are perfectly 
satisfactory. All of Leica's other film cameras use standard commercial 
cassettes. There is little justification for using the Leica cassettes 
unless you reload stamped metal cassettes over and over. Porters sells 
heavy duty stamped cassettes for about $1 which will tolerate repeated 
reloading.

Larry Z


Replies: Reply from dlridings at gmail.com (Daniel Ridings) ([Leica] Re: Leica cassettes)