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Subject: [Leica] [was] Another Altered Photo / now WAY OT
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Tue Aug 8 14:17:30 2006
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Ask B.D., he taught me all I know :-$

Adam Bridge wrote:

> Isn't it embarassing to drool like this in public, Walt?
>
> The whole issue of depleted uranium is that there ISN'T any U235 in it
> - it's been extracted to make reactor fuel (mostly) and weapons (a
> little). What's left is U238 and a few other nuclides.
>
> Adam
>
> On 8/8/06, Walt Johnson <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote:
>
>> And since I was a kid in  the 50's I been worried about Dr. Strangelove.
>> If I'd only know U235 was so harmless I coulda been putting it on my 
>> cereal.
>>
>> Adam Bridge wrote:
>>
>> > Sigh - not BILLION years. Geesh. Come on guys at least TRY to get some
>> > half-life information correct.
>> >
>> > Here's a Wikipedia article on Deplete Uranium. You can search for more
>> > inflammatory or more sanguine articles with Google or your search
>> > engine of choice.
>> >
>> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium>
>> >
>> > As a beta emitter U-238's decay chain isn't too bad since, as long as
>> > it's external to the body your skin will block the high-energy
>> > electrons emitted. Taken internally, however, it's more problamatical
>> > but not nearly as nasty as the alpha-emitters whose high-energy helium
>> > nuclii can do serious damage. (The most common source of alpha
>> > emission is radon gas which is a naturally occuring decay product
>> > found from a variety of natural sources, not to mention the decay
>> > chains of fission products. In areas with lots of granite, for
>> > instance, having a radon detector in your home would make a lot of
>> > sense.)
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> > On 8/8/06, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hang on Don.
>> >> This projectile has no magic burning through properties. It's all 
>> about
>> >> density vs cross section. Add that to high velocity and you have
>> >> enormous
>> >> kinetic energy in the penetrator. The projectile will shed mass after
>> >> penetrating, plus the armour itself will add to the stream. It is 
>> also
>> >> pyrophoric so you would expect catastrophic heat along with the
>> >> shrapnel and
>> >> spalled armour. An extremely lethal shower of very hot sharp 
>> material.
>> >> Regarding the radiation, it may be relatively benign to handle as you
>> >> noted,
>> >> but the dust particles from a round impact are VERY bad juju 
>> should you
>> >> inhale them. That would be the least of your problems if you were
>> >> sitting
>> >> within the target. Visiting it later would not be recommended either.
>> >> It may
>> >> well be very toxic within the next few billion years or so.
>> >> Regarding the chain gun, it is a different but allied design to the
>> >> rotary
>> >> barrel "gatling" designs. The principle benefits are simplicity and
>> >> extreme
>> >> reliability.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Hoppy Gunny and M9 Guy
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>> >> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On
>> >> Behalf Of
>> >> Don Dory
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 12:59
>> >> To: Leica Users Group
>> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] [was] Another Altered Photo / now WAY OT
>> >>
>> >> Jerry,
>> >> >From a military perspective, depleted uranium is almost irresistable
>> >> as an
>> >> anti-amour round.  The uranium literally burns through armour without
>> >> the
>> >> extreme kinetic energy generally required.  Thus a 30mm chain gun can
>> >> become
>> >> a heavy tank killer.  The military will not stop using it as it works
>> >> too
>> >> well.  As I understand the spent rounds are primarily a Beta emitter
>> >> so not
>> >> that hazardous as radioactive things go.
>> >>
>> >> Don
>> >> don.dory@gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 8/7/06, Haussler, Gerald R - San Mateo, CA
>> >> <gerald.r.haussler@usps.gov>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Gents;
>> >> > isn't Depleted Uranium (DU) nuclear waste ?
>> >> > seems to me the Pentagon found a use for that stuff
>> >> > about 15 years ago. i thought they stopped using it,
>> >> > but i now understand it continues.
>> >> > regards
>> >> > jerry
>> >> >
>> >> > ***************************************************
>> >> > used nuclear waste ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Lottermoser George wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Shipping? ; ^ )
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Regards,
>> >> > > George Lottermoser
>> >> > > george@imagist.com
>> >> > > On Aug 7, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Walt Johnson wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Sell it to the Saudis
>> >> >
>> >> >
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