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Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Tue Sep 19 16:21:28 2006

OOps, that should be for the 16mm on the M8 it would be the 21 mm setting.  
And I don't drink beer.  ;-)

Gene

-------------- Original message from grduprey@mchsi.com: -------------- 


> Hoppy, 
> 
> If you set the dial for the correct frame lines for the body your are 
> using you 
> will have the correct view in the external finder. Seems pretty simple to 
> me. 
> No it does not change automatically, you have to do this yourself. If you 
> have 
> a M7 or earlier, you set the finder for the 18mm frames. If you have a M8 
> you 
> set them for 24mm. so on and so forth. 
> 
> Gene 
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : 
> -------------- 
> 
> 
> > Gene, 
> > Yes on an M7. 
> > No on an M8. Want to bet a six pack on it ;-) 
> > The universal wide finder does not compensate for the "crop factor". 
> > There is 
> > no interface with the camera except for a shoe mount. 
> > The internal finder does compensate, of course. 
> > 
> > Cheers 
> > Hoppy 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> > Of 
> > grduprey@mchsi.com 
> > Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 01:02 
> > To: Leica Users Group 
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> > 
> > Looking at the dial on the new finder, it looks like you set the focal 
> > lenght 
> > for the actual focal length for the camera. And that 
> > is what I also got reading the DPreviw artical and the lit from Leica on 
> > their 
> > site. 
> > 
> > Gene 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : 
> > -------------- 
> > 
> > 
> > > Gene, what about on an M7 
> > > What about the current 21 on an M8? 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> > > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> > > Of 
> > > grduprey@mchsi.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 15:01 
> > > To: Leica Users Group 
> > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> > > 
> > > Actually Hoppy, you set the finder for the focal lenght of the lens 
> > > you are 
> > > attaching, as Tom alluded to several posts ago. 
> > > 
> > > Gene 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : 
> > > -------------- 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > And the quoted price for lens and universal wide angle finder is 
> > > > 3,500 
> Euro. 
> > > > Actually when you read the spec more carefully, that finder will 
> > > > display 5 
> > > > frames (all singly), being 16, 18, 21, 24 & 28. Since 
> > > > there's no interface with the camera (except for a mounting foot) I 
> > > > guess 
> > you 
> > > > need to remember which to select on the M7 etc or M8. 
> > > > 
> > > > So for M8: 
> > > > with the new Tri-Elmar you set 16, 18 or 21 but you actually get 21, 
> > > > 24 or 
> > 28 
> > > > effectively. 
> > > > If you fit the current 21 you'd need to set 28. For the 24, 28 and 
> > > > up you 
> > use 
> > > > the camera's finder. 
> > > > 
> > > > For the M7 and earlier, you can use 16, 18 or 21 as 16, 18, or 21 
> > > > For the current 21, 24 and 28 you can set 21, 24, or 28 
> > > > For 28 (.72 & lower) and up you can use the camera finder. 
> > > > 
> > > > My brain hurts, I need to lie down now. 
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers Hoppy 
> > > > 51 this year or 68 effective with crop factor. 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> > > > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On 
> > > > Behalf Of 
> > > > grduprey@mchsi.com 
> > > > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 13:41 
> > > > To: Leica Users Group 
> > > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> > > > 
> > > > The Leica web site has all the info on it also. Considering the cost 
> > > > of 
> the 
> > > > Zeiss single/double lens finders compared to the tri 
> > > > finder from Leica, can't be that bad. And then it is the only finder 
> > > > you 
> > would 
> > > > need. 
> > > > 
> > > > Gene 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : 
> > > > -------------- 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Mark the specs and brochure are released, at least to user forum 
> members. 
> > I 
> > > > > guess they must be in wide circulation by now. 
> > > > > It does look yummy. Its Dimensions and weight 
> > > > > Length to bayonet flange approx. 63mm 
> > > > > Largest diameter approx. 55mm 
> > > > > Weight approx. 350g 
> > > > > For us metric folks. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > But you are going to have to buy the horrendously complex and 
> > > > > expensive 
> > > super 
> > > > > finder thingie to go with it. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers 
> > > > > Hoppy 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> > > > > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On 
> > > > > Behalf 
> Of 
> > > > > Mark Rabiner 
> > > > > Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 10:44 
> > > > > To: lug@leica-users.org 
> > > > > Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicam8/ 
> > > > > !!!!!!!~!!!!! 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm not seeing any mention of this mouth watering hot little 
> > > > > volcano of 
> an 
> > > > > item as part of the dpreview article on the M8. I wonder if anyone 
> > bothered 
> > > > > turning the page!!!?!. 
> > > > > I think we're all to busy playing with our DSLR's to bother with 
> > > > > what's 
> > > > > happening with Leica. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On your M8 it becomes an 21-24-28 mm. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Film M users might clamor for a 21-24-28 mm. Putting it mildly. 
> > > > > Could get them to learn to love the digital revolution. 
> > > > > To go with their 16-18-21 mm which has revolutionized their Leica 
> > > > > film 
> > > > > shooting. 
> > > > > Not that THAT would NOT also revolutionize their film shooting. 
> > > > > As they've promised it covers a whole hunk of 24x36mm flim. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > But sooner or later it will be interesting and I think it will be 
> > > > > after 
> > > > > another year that Leica makes a lens optimized for the 1.33 
> > > > > "format". 
> > > > > With advantages in the compactness end as well as the quality of 
> > > > > the 
> other 
> > > > > end as its an optic designed around a much smaller image circle. 
> > > > > And can 
> > > > > thus be made to produce a higher quality image in that area. 
> > > > > Smaller the circle the higher the resolution and so on are going 
> > > > > to be. 
> > > > > Some of us may not know that. Glass which covers medium format as 
> > > > > in 
> 6x6cm 
> > > > > do not have the rez in a 24x36 area tat a lens designed for that 
> > > > > format 
> > has. 
> > > > > And its obvious a medium format lens is nowhere near as compact as 
> lenses 
> > > > > made for 35. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've been loving using my 55-200mm F/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 
> > > > > lens. 
> > > > > Featherweight and incredibly compact. 
> > > > > Its an 80-300 which looks like a 105 2.5 or 80 or smaller. 
> > > > > Especially if you leave the lens shade off. 
> > > > > The guy across the street would have no idea you were getting a 
> > > > > tight 
> > > > > headshot of his Pomeranian. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or Shih Tzu. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or Brussels Griffon. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mark Rabiner 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 40°46'58.65"N 73°49'31.68"W 
> > > > > Whitestone NY 11357 
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://rabinergroup.com/ 
> > > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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