Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/21
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For me a "toy" is some thing to "play"! A car, a boat or a camera! I don't
want to be depreciative but want to separate professionals from some one who
uses some kind of equipment for a hobby.
I only would like that M's and especially the new future models would fulfil
the need of a professional but with out changing M personality...
B regards from Portugal
-----Mensagem original-----
De: lug-bounces+bernardofeio=yahoo.com.br@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bernardofeio=yahoo.com.br@leica-users.org] Em nome de
grduprey@mchsi.com
Enviada: quinta-feira, 21 de Setembro de 2006 3:21
Para: Leica Users Group
Assunto: RE: [Leica] Professional Leica Users?
I don't buy that, hobbyists also use pro cameras, or cameras used by pros
also. Does that by his definition also make them toys? In fact I would
venture that hobbyists probably buy more pro cameras than pros do. Seems a
photo mag said that once.
Gene
-------------- Original message from "Philip Forrest"
<photo.forrest@earthlink.net>: --------------
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the gentleman used the term "toy"
as
> a hobbyist item, not a piece of gear that a pro photog would use for most
of
> their livelihood. This has nothing to do with the durability of the
> cameras, hardly. I took my M4 and M2 to Iraq and both performed flawlessly
> when my Nikon digital wouldn't even turn on (above 115 degrees.) The
Leicas
> are as durable as ever & nothing else can really compare besides an old
> rugged film body such as a Nikon F2. The reasoning behind the discussion
> here is that there's too much cost and time when shooting film. It's
mostly
> relegated to the hobbyist and fine art shooters.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of grduprey@mchsi.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:31 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Professional Leica Users?
>
> I guess I wonder why you call it a toy. A toy implies it is something you
> would give to a child or something that is not expected to last. The M
> camera of today are every bit as rugged as those of years gone by, and
just
> as usable. It may not have all the baubles and extras as say the Canon 1Ds
> MkII, but it has all you need to do the job. Yes it is expensive, but so
is
> the Canon, in fact several Canons fit into this price range, as well as at
> least one Nikon. Do you consider them also toys?
>
> Gene
>
> -------------- Original message from bernardo feio
> : --------------
>
>
> > I know that this doesn?t take us any were but don?t you think that it?s
a
> shame
> > that M Leica gear is almost a toy and not a tool has it was supposed to
> be?
> >
> > If Leica turns only to be an expensive toy I will be very sad!
> >
> > So photo professionals what is missing to M to make it a toll again?
> >
> > B regards from Portugal
> > Bernardo feio
> >
> >
> > Will von Dauster escreveu: While I've almost never
> > used Ms exclusively, they used to be my
> > cameras of choice for event coverage and on-site, in-context
> > portraiture, as well as various other applications. I also miss them,
> > and look forward to hearing how the M8 performs as shipped.
> >
> > Will von Dauster
> >
> > USDOC/NOAA
> >
> > On Sep 20, 2006, at 6:30 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
> >
> > > At 06:06 AM 9/20/2006, you wrote:
> > >> Hi
> > >>
> > >> How many of us "leica users" are professional photographers (and
> > >> live from taking pictures) use Leica M equipment for work? And
> > >> from those that are professional and don't use M equipment how
> > >> many will start using the M8?
> > >
> > > I'm a professional photographer who used to use M's exclusively but
> > > I now use Canon's exclusively. I'm still looking forward to
> > > getting the M8 so I can use all of those wonderful M lenses which
> > > are gathering dust on my shelves. The Canon 1DMII is a monster to
> > > carry around, especially with the 85/1.2 attached. The M8 with a
> > > Noctilux will be much easier to carry. I'm just hoping that the
> > > high ISO's will be as good as Canon's.
> > >
> > > Tina
> > >
> > > Tina Manley, ASMP, NPPA
> > > http://www.tinamanley.com
> > >
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