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Subject: [Leica] Infrared ans autumn
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Fri Oct 20 17:50:59 2006
References: <000501c6f4a9$f4c77300$6501a8c0@asus930>

I might just try your conventional film IR tomorrow. It's supposed to  
be a sunny day and I've got some Tri-X in the fridge. BTW My digital  
IR is shot at ISO 800 and it has half the grain as HIE exposed at 50.

Cheers,
Len


On Oct 20, 2006, at 8:43 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> You go, Len!
> No question that Jim produces superb work with some rather  
> wonderful traditional gear. Regarding the IR I was just thinking  
> that you
> could achieve the same tonal effect (with less grain) from scanned  
> conventional black and white film, with our old friend, the
> channel mixer.
> Cheers
> Hoppy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org  
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On  
> Behalf Of
> Leonard Taupier
> Sent: Saturday, 21 October 2006 10:25
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Infrared ans autumn
>
> Hoppy. I was joking with you. My last film IR was two weeks ago using
> a M6 with a 28, 50 and 90mm primes and an 89B Cokin filter. Used
> Kodak HIE developed in D76 and scanned with a Nikon Coolscan 9000.
> Then cleaned up in CS2. I use photoshop for everything including my
> film work. My last digital IR was yesterday using a D1H. What Jim
> does is a lot of work and the film is expensive. But he's rewarded
> with great photos. I also like the fact he uses vintage equipment. I
> use a Spotmatic II from time to time. Most of my infrared is digital
> and manipulated in my MAC. I have never tried conventional film for
> IR but it's intriguing. Now that I'm retired I have plenty of time to
> play.
>
> Cheers,
> Len
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2006, at 7:54 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> Leonard, I understand the satisfaction of that approach. I think it
>> is a mistake though, to regard a software darkroom as a trick or
>> less worthy than a chemical one. Yes you can achieve decent results
>> fairly simply but it requires quite a deal of effort and skill
>> to do very well, Just like wet prints, really. An infrared image is
>> not a natural one and needs imagination and good technique.
>> Everyone has their own threshold of how much manipulation is
>> acceptable either to either source.
>> The biggie is that Jim has used a manual focus film camera with a
>> prime fitted to make striking images. Absolutely commendable IMHO
>> ;-)
>> Cheers
>> Hoppy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Leonard Taupier
>> Sent: Saturday, 21 October 2006 01:34
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Infrared ans autumn
>>
>> But, Hoppy. That's cheating. You need the thrill of trying to salvage
>> that under exposed frame or trying to figure out where to adjust your
>> focus. When you're finished you have the satisfaction of knowing that
>> you did it all and not the trick of a computer program. I must admit
>> it is fun though.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2006, at 11:24 AM, G Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>>> Jim, those are striking and impressive. My favourites are the
>>> bubbles.
>>> I don't have any experience with the infrared film, but you could
>>> certainly achieve this look, too with conventional film and
>>> Photoshop (channel mixer) if you wanted to experiment.
>>> Cheers
>>> Hoppy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Jim Hemenway
>>> Sent: Friday, 20 October 2006 23:10
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: [Leica] Infrared ans autumn
>>>
>>> Hi Folks:
>>>
>>> At the end of September I loaded up my newly acquired "vintage"
>>> Pentax
>>> MX with some Konica Infrared film to see what kind of results would
>>> come
>>> out of shooting autumn foliage in infrared.
>>>
>>> For my tastes, infrared film does best when used in the spring/
>>> summer on
>>> green foliage, which it renders as a ghostly white or light gray,
>>> at the
>>> same time it usually renders those dark blue afternoon skies as
>>> black or
>>> dark gray.
>>>
>>> I attended a wedding on Mount Desert Island in Maine on September
>>> 30th,
>>> about 260 miles from where I live, and the next morning I took some
>>> photos at Acadia National Park on the island and later one of what's
>>> left of Sherman Lake in Newcastle Maine, about halfway home.
>>>
>>> There was an actual lake there for most of the last century but
>>> when we
>>> had all that rain a year ago, the dam which formed the lake was
>>> washed
>>> away.
>>>
>>> Groton, where I took the barn photo is about 25 miles west of where
>>> I live.
>>>
>>> Here's the photos:
>>> http://www.half-fast.com/AcadiaInfrared-Oct2006/
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As you can see from this batch, the autumn foliage doesn't  
>>> present as
>>> "ghostly" as does the earlier leaves.
>>>
>>> Jim
>
>
>
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