Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/11/08

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Subject: [Leica] 2500 ISO
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Wed Nov 8 08:21:41 2006
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George

I'm sure you are right about the image quality of the M8. Nonetheless, 
image quality is not the final arbitrator of lasting images. :-)

Lottermoser George wrote:

> Hi Walt,
>
> Certainly, setting two cameras on a tripod right next to each other  
> with the same lens, etc. would give more critical information.  
> However, I'm looking at well exposed RAW files of similar subjects,  
> under similar available lighting and speaking only of the: detail  
> rendered, noise (and its qualities of size, color and pixelation),  
> and where that noise has most effect in zone V and below. These  
> comparisons are very much like comparing film grain, resolution,  
> ability to render detail, color, etc. I've looked at a lot of RAW  
> files from a lot of sensors including: Canon 10D, 20D, 5D, Leica DMR,  
> Leica M8 and few medium format backs of various vintages (have not  
> seen RAW from the newest 16 and 22 mpixel backs). Through my  
> subjective eyes the DMR and M8, at 400 or below, detail rendition,  
> color fidelity (skin tones, neutrals, etc.) and dynamic range equals  
> the medium format backs of a year or two ago and surpasses my 5D.  
> Over 400 the 5D seems to surpass the M8. I haven't seen DMR RAW files  
> above 400.
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george@imagist.com
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Walt Johnson wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't you have to run a test by shooting the same subject with  
>> different cameras at the same time to make accurate decisions?
>
>
>
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