Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/12/12

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Subject: [Leica] A modern Leica (live view)
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Tue Dec 12 17:19:32 2006

Live view is "interesting" but it is a part of any design trade-off. I
know Doug Herr would be laughing if you suggested that you make his
viewfinder DARKER in order to get the live view feature. For a
semi-pro camera or one where you don't need a really bright image for
focusing purposes, then it's a nice feature. And it with it you get
some very nice exposure features, etc.

But it's not a free lunch. Would you give up a stop or two for noise
reduction to get it? How about contrast? Image sharpness?

Yes, in a future camera these can be addressed. And they certainly
will be. But I wouldn't throw any rocks at a camera designer of an SLR
replacement who doesn't opt for this feature because if you want to
get every last photon out of your image then you're going to want to
see that image as well as possible.

I take your point - that we need to experiment around to get a good
feature set.

Adam

On 12/10/06, Gary Todoroff <datamaster@northcoastphotos.com> wrote:
>
> >  Does the image stabilization work on the 330? Cheers
> >Alastair
>
> Darn right Alastair - that Image Stabilization works great on the
> Olympus E-330 - just plunk her down on a table, counter top or floor
> and shoot at 1 second exposure - perfect framing with the tilted
> live-view screen - no problem and no shake! Howard is right, too  -
> the Digiliux 3 / Lumix L1 doesn't have the features that makes the
> E-330 special. Also the Lumix is larger and bulkier than the Olympus.
> In comparison the Lumix felt big and clunky, though I wouldn't mind
> trying the Leica zoom optics on my E-330.
>
> I've seen the results of the questionnaire that David Young did on a
> potential R10 (Thanks David!). 84 percent said that live view was
> "not important"! Are Leica folks really that stuck on "tradition" and
> not on creativity? I wonder how many people told Edison that electric
> lights were not important - gas works just fine thank you. Live view
> is barely here and I can hardly wait for a forward thinking engineer
> to put the camera viewfinder in my  eye glasses - and why
> not?!  Leica only got to where we revere it now because they busted
> the mold for cameras 60 years ago. They have a chance to break
> photography wide open again while most of the world is still
> designing cameras like they are meant to hold FILM!
>
> C'mon guys - are you shooting pictures or fondling a piece of metal
> and glass? If Leica pays attention to that 84% kind of response on
> the R10 survey, then are we doomed to another round of ten year-old
> designs with occasional colored leather and some silly engravings on
> meticulous camera bodies that will never see the light of day, much
> less take an actual photograph? The E-330 is just a beginning of what
> can happen with digital - small, and handy, super optics, dependable
> and one of the most creative picture taking machines to appear in
> many years. Hmmm . . . sounds like a certain camera that started with
> "M" in the 1950's. Only now it's almost 2007, and I'm waiting to see
> if Leica can actually do the E-330 one better. They are talking like
> it could happen. But are their engineers casting off the restraints
> of tradition and really designing outside the box, both literally and
> figuratively? If they could just shed those R and M blinders, a
> modern Leica could be a real wonder!
>
> Gary Todoroff
> Tree LUGger
> http://northcoastphotos.com/
>
>
>
>
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