Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/12/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> M4, M4-2, M4-P. I haven't been able to get any Leica book that says that > one > was superior to another, but have heard anecdotal information that (1) the > M4 was best built of all Leica M bodies [I think the current MP gets that > award], and (2) either the M4-2 or the M4-P is not up to M2, M3, or M4 > quality. The M4 seems to be the most coveted of the three, but that might > be > because it is a better "collector". The M4 is most coveted because it was the last of the classic M bodies assembled by the post-war workers in Wetzlar (although there are some Canadian M4s as well). Many Leica users and Leicaphiles view everything that followed as lesser quality. The M4-2 was a somewhat economized version, production of which was moved to Canada. There were early teething troubles, but note that this has been the case with almost every Leica M body. After the earliest production, the finder was modified sightly to reduce costs but the result was that the finder is more subject to flare than the M4/M2 finder. The M4-2 was the first that would take a motor without factory modification, but the steel gear in the geartrain makes it feel less smooth. The M4-2, like the M4-P, eliminated the self-timer of the M4 and earlier bodies. For a variety of reasons, most of which I think are emotional rather than objective, the M4-2 has long been a poor cousin in the M range, and prices usually reflect that status. I have gotten the sense that there is a small number of M4-2s that were produced after they got the bugs ironed out but before the finder was simplified. If that were true, that would be a great user body at a great price, relative to oth er meterless M bodies. The M4-P introduced 28mm and 75mm framelines. It is generally regarded as better made than the M4-2. Whether that is really true or true only because it didn't have the early problems that the M4-2 had, I don't know. Very late M4-Ps had zinc alloy top covers, like the M6, with flush windows. It is essentially an M6 without a meter. IMO M6s are a better user than any of these and recent pricing is very good on M6s, but YMMV. Season's cheer John Newell