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Subject: Re: [Leica] Question about M Adapter Irzoo or Voigtländer
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Mon Dec 25 15:13:10 2006
References: <005901c72874$dba4da80$2101a8c0@luispersonal>

Hi Luis,

The adapter looks identical to mine. Leica made two adapters for the  
50mm that should work for you. One only says 5cm. The other says  
something like M2 50mm and M3 28-50mm. Mechanically they should be  
the same and show the 50mm frameline.
I agree you should get the Leica made adapter.

Good Luck,
Len

On Dec 25, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote:

> Hi Len,
>
> The adapter I have is exactly this one
> http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
> ViewItem&item=270072506115&ssPageName=AD
> ME:B:SS:ES:1
>
> As said in my previous e-mail, I think this one is not the adapter  
> I need
> for my 50mm screw lenses, because I have two problems with it: I  
> can't see
> the 50mm framelines, and I can only use it with the Summitar but  
> not with
> the Elmar. After your kind opinions I'll look for the Leitz  
> original adapter
> 14097 IRZOO.
>
> Thanks again for your kind help Len,
>
> Saludos desde Barcelona
> Luis
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En  
> nombre de
> Leonard Taupier
> Enviado el: lunes, 25 de diciembre de 2006 23:24
> Para: Leica Users Group
> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Question about M Adapter Irzoo or Voigtl?nder
>
> I just miced up my two adapters, the 50mm Leica and the 28/90mm  
> Voight. Both
> adapters have the cutout for the infinity lock. And both adapters  
> measure
> within .001" at the cutout area. I don't know what Luis has. Maybe his
> adapter doesn't have the cutout.
>
> Len
>
> On Dec 25, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Marshall Hunt wrote:
>
>> The adapter by Leitz is a marvel of precision.  The Leitz adapters  
>> are
>> ground for thickness after they are chromed.  The V adapter is
>> not....but that's not your whole problem.  The adapter for lenses
>> which have the infinity lock, and turn the front lens (single helix):
>> Elmar 50 and 35, Summaron 35, have a cutout for the lock.  The flange
>> which contains the name and lens size is about 5mm wide for about 240
>> degrees of the circle.  Then it is made narrower to 3mm wide.  As the
>> lens is screwed into the adapter, the base of the infinity lock moves
>> into the clearance cut.  This gives enough space for the infinity
>> (un)lock to work.  Lenses which do not turn the front lens, like the
>> Summitar and Summicron, have a greater distance between the infinity
>> lock and the camera body flange, and don't need the cutout. It looks
>> like V has that cutout on one of their adapters.
>>
>> On 12/25/06, Leonard Taupier <len-1@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Luis,
>>>
>>> I reread your questions and realize I didn't fully answer your
>>> question which is "Is there any adapter that with only one adapter
>>> can I see the framelines for 28/90 and 50?"
>>>
>>> The answer is almost. And only on a M3 body. The M3 always shows the
>>> 50mm frameline. With the 28/90 adapter, using either a 50mm or 90mm
>>> lens, the 50mm frameline and the 90 frameline will always be shown.
>>> The M3 cannot show a 28mm or 35mm frameline (with the original
>>> viewfinder). Do you have a M3 body"  There are no bodies that will
>>> show a 50mm and 28mm frameline at the same time. The only camera  
>>> that
>>> I know of that can show multiple frames without an adapter is the
>>> Nikon SP rangefinder. It can show 50, 85, 105 and 135 by just  
>>> turning
>>> a dial.
>>>
>>> I still don't know why your 5cm Elmar doesn't work. I have 3 lenses
>>> with the little focus tab and button and they all work (wrong lines)
>>> with the Voightlander 28/90. A 35mm and two 50's.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Len
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 25, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Luis Ripoll wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've get a Voigtl?nder adapter screw lenses M39 to M, on the
>>>> adapter is indicated for 28-90mm, but only the framelines of the
>>>> 28/90 are displayed.
>>>> Should I need a different adapter to see the 50mm frameline?, is
>>>> the IRZOO or Leitz reference 14097 better for these purposes? Is
>>>> there any adapter that with only one adapter can I see the
>>>> framelines for 28/90
>>> and 50?
>>>>
>>>> Second question, I can't not put on this adapter the Elmar
>>>> 3,5/5cm., the focusing tab touch the framelines device or the buton
>>>> to take up/on the lenses...., I can only use the Summitar 50
>>>> (without seeing the 50 framelines), and the Hekto F6,3/ 2,8cm.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for so many questions, and thanks in advance for your help
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice Christmas day!
>>>>
>>>> Saludos desde Barcelona
>>>> Luis
>>>>
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