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Subject: [Leica] 400mm f6.8 Telyt problem
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Mon Jan 15 19:17:53 2007
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Frank, You're just as crazy as I am. I use a Sinar 4X5 and a  
Hasselblad 501CM as well. I have an Omega D2 set up only for the 4X5.  
My Nikon CS9000 handles everything else. It's really nice for  
scanning 35mm because the holder doesn't need aligning and it holds  
12 negatives. I just load it up and walk away for a half hour. I'm  
not into street photos either. I refuse to go into Philly.

I do have to do something about that 400mm. I just checked the specs.  
It actually weighs 14.55 pounds. It handles very well though on a  
Wimberly head and a Gitzo tripod.

Yes, retirement is great.
Just waiting for the M8. Then I will have to sell something.

Regards,
Len

On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:

> I fully understand..... I had forgotten about our IR issues....  
> nice choice.....I must agree.
>
> $0.29 offer for the Nikkor lens.... 400/2.8.. Plus I pay  
> shipping..... ( Generous, No?)
>
> Sounds like retirement really is fitting you well!!!!  Great!!!
>
> I use a 4x5 Linhof Technikardan, Hasselblad, and Leica systems all  
> the time.  I enjoy the outdoors and walking around looking for
> opportunities.  I do not do much street work.... too much chance  
> for problems out here in LA.....
>
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@earthlink.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leonard Taupier [mailto:len-1@comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:29 PM
> To: Frank Filippone
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 400mm f6.8 Telyt problem
>
> What the M8 and the Visoflex is doing for me, a small percentage of
> the time, is give me much better UV and IR photos.  After all it's
> famous for that and the EOS is not. It actually saved me the cost of
> converting or buying an IR body. Most of the time the M8 will be used
> for conventional photos with very nice m glass.  I don't see the M8
> as a birdie camera. The EOS 20d is, especially with its 1.6X factor.
> The EOS and 400mm Telyt will give me a very lightweight 640mm lens on
> a digital body. I tend to take very long walks in the woods and I'm
> getting a little tired of carrying 10 lbs of gear around. Worst then
> that my AF-I 400/2.8 Nikkor is about 12 lbs without a tripod or
> camera. It doesn't get used. Anybody want to buy it? One of the best
> lenses Nikon ever made. The Telyt fixes the weight issue and is very
> very good.
>
> And yes I'm having a ball.  Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Len
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2007, at 7:58 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>
>> I guess I think differently.....  In the case of the true Visoflex,
>> the purpose WAS to make a RF camera into a SLR.  Macro, Long
>> lenses, specialized scientific, etc. was the real purpose, as I see
>> it.  Sort of keeping the Leica user still in the Leica "Club"
>> for these applications while SLR was becoming king......
>>
>> Rush forward to 2007, a few weeks from now...
>>
>> This person, who we will anonymously call Leonard, has a Visoflex,
>> a EOS  and a Leica M8.  He wants to take pictures with his Leica
>> glass for macro type work and for birdies.  Is the M8 the right
>> tool to use for this application or would the EOS  be a better and
>> less aggravating choice?
>>
>> What application would the M8 be a better choice for Macro?  Birdies?
>>
>> The camera body is used to record what is seen.  M8 or EOS would
>> use the same lenses so it is not a matter of optics.
>>
>> I know that Marc also uses the Visoflex for a lot of work.
>> Personally, I think the "experience" is not worth the output.......
>>
>> But then again, it is YOUR camera, YOUR Viso, YOUR time, YOUR  
>> fun.....
>>
>> Have at it!
>>
>> Frank Filippone
>> red735i@earthlink.net
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-
>> bounces+red735i=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>> Leonard Taupier
>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:17 AM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] 400mm f6.8 Telyt problem
>>
>> Ah yes. But now we have a very special body, the M8, that will do
>> things that no other M can do. I already have the parts in place, a
>> Viso III, a bellows II, the UOOYW adapter with the EL Nikkor
>> attached. I've been practicing on the M6 body. Works like a champ.
>> This is for UV and IR photos. To me kludgey means fun.
>> As for the Telyt I will mount it on a Canon EOS body with the R-EOS
>> adapter. That will give me AE and a 640mm telescope (ref to film).
>> Now if you could find me a viso tube I could use it on my Nikon
>> bodies as well. I think the Telyt's are getting hard to find and
>> that's what's driving the high price. Check out Tamarkin.
>>
>> With the M8 I'll be using the WA lenses more then ever. I have the
>> 21, 24 and 28mm Elmarit (non-Asph). All were bought new. I still have
>> the boxes, etc. Still look new. The 28 might become available as it's
>> duplicated on my Tri-Elmar. I can't commit until after the M8 gets a
>> workout.
>>
>> As for the 28mm. My son bought the 28/2 Summicron. He now wishes he
>> had my Summarit. He's bothered by the vignetting of the Summicron. He
>> just spent the better part of an evening correcting shots taken in
>> the Utah canyons. Lots of clear blue sky.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2007, at 12:06 AM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>
>>> Visoflex and digital capture..... Old meets new.....
>>>
>>> Interesting.........
>>>
>>> I always felt the Visoflex was a bit kludgey.    Especially if
>>> there were an alternative.   I used one for a while after I got the
>>> 400 ( with my M6), then I figured it was a lot easier to get the
>>> Nikon adapter and do it right, AE, and life is easier.....  Thanks
>>> to the LUG , especially Ted and Doug, I learned to use it wide
>>> open.  Then there is no issue with stopping the iris down.  With
>>> Aperture set AE, it is easy to use with the F4.
>>>
>>> Anyway, enjoy it....
>>>
>>> I did find the second tube.... ( it was where it did not belong,
>>> and therefore, with everything in disarray, it was easy to spot in
>>> its' wrong position...!)  I will figure a price and email you when
>>> I get a chance to figure it out...
>>>
>>> BTW, anything to trade ??  I am a M user... Looking for a 21 or 28
>>> ( for which I guess I would need to part with some green
>>> stuff....)
>>>
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> red735i@earthlink.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Leonard Taupier [mailto:len-1@comcast.net]
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 8:31 PM
>>> To: Frank Filippone
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] 400mm f6.8 Telyt problem
>>>
>>> Not a problem. I probably won't have the Telyt back for a month.
>>>
>>> I'm really anxious to see the M8. I have plans to do some special
>>> things. One thing for sure. The Visoflex may get a workout.
>>>
>>> Len
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2007, at 9:45 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have found one of the tubes, need to find the other....just to be
>>>> sure.
>>>>
>>>> We are having some work done in the house this week, so it may take
>>>> a while to find #2.
>>>>
>>>> Will advise......
>>>>
>>>> Hope the M8 meets your expectations.....Lots of info out there.....
>>>> not all of it so positive.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I have no plans to spend $5K on another camera.  I
>>>> thought my M6 was way too expensive at less than $2K.  ( then  
>>>> again,
>>>> my 11x14 I thought was OK priced at around $2K all complete.....)
>>>>
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> red735i@earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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