Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/05/07

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Subject: [Leica] posting again
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Mon May 7 11:39:44 2007
References: <463E8DF4.4000702@waltjohnson.com> <9389109D-F707-4FD2-914C-FC7DE9E77A70@charter.net> <463F142A.6020203@waltjohnson.com> <4A1C4315-6582-45A2-B52B-8525EEE143CB@charter.net>

Well, we all have some really scary A.P. stories. The scariest  one 
didn't happen to me but to the fellow who shot the best of the best, 
i.e. Challenger disaster. That should have been a heads up for the 
entire profession.  .  I would certainly advise anyone to watch their 
backs when dealing with wire services,stock agencies and other freelance 
markets. But then I'm sure you've been around long enough to know that. :-)

Walt

slobodan dimitrov wrote:
> That second camera thing is gone by the way side. A few years back AP 
> placed a prohibition on double duty. Any image from anything, camera 
> phone, 'personal camera,' etc., became AP property while on assignment.
>
> S. Dimitrov
>
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 4:57 AM, Walt Johnson wrote:
>
>> Well Slobodan
>>
>> Technically, you are a bit off as to ownership.  All the work I' did 
>> as an agency shooter remained mine, mine, mine. Years before that the 
>> issue was less defined but since most of what I shot was done on my 
>> time, it's mine,mine.mine.
>> I wouldn't shoot for any organization which insisted I sign an 
>> agreement giving up my rights of ownership. I know times have changed 
>> and many publications want all the rights, but an independent 
>> contractor (read freelancer) is just that.
>>
>> This, of course, doesn't apply to those fortunate (or poor bastards) 
>> working as employees.  That is the price one must pay for knowing 
>> where and when their bread will be buttered.
>>
>> The times I was broke enough to sign those agreements without protest 
>> did happen. Fortunately, those were times when the work would be too 
>> embarrassing to flaunt.Much like the fellow (Haberle) who carried an 
>> extra camera when shooting atrocities I did the same. :-)
>>
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>>> So, tell me Walt.
>>> Are you the owner of these images, or the publication(s) that you 
>>> worked for?
>>> Traditionally, and to this day, a PJ doesn't hold the rights to the 
>>> images while in the employ of a publication.
>>>
>>> Slobodan Dimitrov
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2007, at 7:24 PM, Walt Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here are a coupe of recent additions.
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Walt+Johnson/troubled_boy.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Walt+Johnson/shuttle.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> thanks for looking
>>>>
>>>> Walt
>>>>
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