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Subject: [Leica] Scanning HELP
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll)
Date: Fri May 11 16:25:52 2007
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Hi Len,

I don't understand the loss of quality on Vuescan and Silverfast, but
doesn't matter, my original problem, as showoed pn picture #08 on Epson is
that the scanner crop automatically the dark areas of the negative, giving
you an extrange form, even sometimes it pick part of the following picture.
I think that in Epson should exist a tool like a marcc to define the area
you want to work, and don't have finfd it...

Thanks for your comments
Luis

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
Leonard Taupier
Enviado el: s?bado, 12 de mayo de 2007 0:55
Para: Leica Users Group
Asunto: Re: [Leica] Scanning HELP

Hi Luis,

No question the Epson software is giving you the best image quality.  
In photo #1 the view on my monitor is the same as yours. I am surprised at
the loss of detail with Vuescan and Silverfast.

I can see your problem, especially since a lot of your photos have deep
shadows. If it were me I would stay with the Epson software and try to bring
up the detail in the shadows with Photoshop. Have you tried to adjust the
image using the Shadow/Highlight? It looks like you would not have to make a
big adjustment and you maintain the detail in the Epson. Give it a try. I'll
try your photo on my computer as well.

Regards,
Len


On May 11, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I need some help and advices about what can I do with my scanning 
> problem.
>
> First point: I'm scanning with a EPSON 3170, and I'm absolutely fully 
> satisfied and happy with the results, IMO I obtain better detail and 
> tones than scanning with Silverfast (too contrasty/hard), or Vuescan 
> (Too soft/smooth, loss of details, but better on the shadows). Please 
> compare these three pictures (For Vuescan and Silverfast I've used the 
> trial
> versions):
>
> This one was scanned with the Epson 3170 software, for me is perfect:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/01-Epson_w.jpg.html
>
> This one with Silverfast, contrast is more hard/strong, certain loss 
> of details
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/01-
> Siverfast3_w.jpg.html
>
> This one with Vuescan, more soft, more shadows details, please see an 
> important loss of details on the left corner
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/01-
> vuescan_w.jpg.html
>
>
> Up to here, your question could be, what are you asking for?.
>
> HERE IS THE ORIGIN OF THE PROBLEM: when I scann with the Epson very 
> dark negatives the resulting image is:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/08-Epson_w.jpg.html
>
> usually with an important loss of parts of the image, for this reason 
> I've started the tests with Vuescan and Silverfast:
>
> With Silverfast
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/08-
> Silverfast2w.jpg.html
>
> With Vuescan
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/08-
> vuescan_w.jpg.html
>
> As you can appreciate Vuescan produce more detail on the shadows, but 
> the overall image quality I like is the one with the EPSON, and here 
> is my
> question:
>
> Could somebody tell me what can I do to avoid this problem with the 
> Epson?
>
> Beside this, IMO is more friendly work with Silverfast tahn Vuescan, 
> on this one every change you do it refresh and takes an enormous 
> time!, on the other hand Silverfast has a wide range of films type to 
> scann, you can better define the resolution..., I like more the 
> Silverfast software, but not the final image.
>
>
> Your comments and help will be really appreciated,
>
> Thanks in advance
> Luis
>
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